Religion in schools

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Brian (May 18, 2010, 09:48:05 AM):
Off the topic somewhat...but who is God going to support for the Super 14...everytime a try is scored by Brian Habana or Pierre Spies and some others...the finger is high in the sky? sickening demonstratism. Keep it to yourselves poephols! ???
BoogieMonster (May 18, 2010, 09:49:48 AM):
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who is God going to support for the Super 14

You'd have to check with your local bookie. I'm guessing God cares so much about tries being scored because he's a gambling addict, one that always wins.
Brian (May 18, 2010, 10:28:34 AM):
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who is God going to support for the Super 14

You'd have to check with your local bookie. I'm guessing God cares so much about tries being scored because he's a gambling addict, one that always wins.
Naaw! he's gone fishing!
singemonkey (May 18, 2010, 12:10:38 PM):
Things will definitely improve for these kids when they leave school. Especially in university, religion may abound, but it certainly loses its dominance. In UCT it was a joke (although not enough of one yet).

It would never cross my mind to accuse a parent of cowardice for avoiding the viciousness with which the religious will demand their unjust privileges. I propose that we use baby steps - primarily focused on agitating for RE to be done on a sectarian basis within religion. Draw attention to Catholic children forced to experience RE taught by non-Catholics. Methodists taught by Anglicans, etc.

Taken against individual Christian sects, the non-religious are one of the biggest groups in the country (if not the biggest). The problem comes when Christians of all sects forget about their usual antipathy to join against us. Can we not find means to demand the rights of religious kids to be taught by those from within their sects ("This Anglican teacher is teaching that evolution is real and fits in with Christianity." or "This Baptist is teaching that gay people will go to hell.")?

Couldn't a strategy be devised to draw the attention to the common ground of children being indoctrinated by those with different views to their parents? I think a lot of them want the same things we do. How would they react to find that their kids were being taught Mormonism in school? But the problem then is, if you have to provide separate instruction for each sect, it becomes infeasible, firstly, and secondly it becomes much harder to argue that atheist kids should be able to have their legitimate equivalent time. We might even find allies among religious moderates who'd be prepared to push for their kind of religion to be co-taught at more fundamentalist schools.

In South Africa though, always baby steps. I think if atheists were to have a public service campaign, the first step would be "good without god," because I'm sure the average Christian thinks that we endorse any kind of evil the moment we're not scared of the dictator in the sky. The "Satanist" argument.
StevoMuso (May 19, 2010, 11:15:05 AM):
In South Africa though, always baby steps. I think if atheists were to have a public service campaign, the first step would be "good without god," because I'm sure the average Christian thinks that we endorse any kind of evil the moment we're not scared of the dictator in the sky. The "Satanist" argument.
"Good without God" sounds brilliant. I will put my thoughts into this and maybe do something through Religion-Free Africa. Good idea - get public awareness up, initiate dialog, etc. :)

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