Religion in schools

[Faerie]

could be  but really "tantrum"

Afrikaans is oulik beskrywend.

Correct! Tantrum it is.

My youngest's school only teach about the xtian god in their religious studies.

My eldest though (high school), receive a more wholistic curriculum and have a different demonation every week stating their case for their particular deity.  He got chucked out of his religious study period last year because he started asking (the same) ackward questions to each of the "leaders" and insisted on answers which they couldnt provide - they all complained and my son got himself excused from the period (fortunately both the boys enjoy math).

One of the questions I remember was related to the gender of a soul, and if a soul should be genderless, why should women be subservient as a female soul is equal to a males.  Good boy. Proud of that one.

[BoogieMonster]

..... and how quick they are to abandon one of "God's" children should he think too much. True love that is.

[Faerie]

..... and how quick they are to abandon one of "God's" children should he think too much. True love that is.

Yes, the poor lad is doomed to hell, I comforted him by assuring him I'll help him with his shovel as I'm doomed to burn too.

He was considered inciteful as well, being 17 and having an edge over an adult resulted in the majority of his friends pouring over their bibles to find things to challenge the poor sods that came to teach them. It became a huge game with a tally being kept as to who could outwit the teacher the most.  This year its offered as an optional and the kids may attend or not as they feel. Much better.

[Lilli]

The mere fact that the debate is taking place is already a step forward.

agreed - but is it a big enough step? I mean, a really lot of people have been talking about the supposed merits and/or drawbacks of a religious upbringing for many years now. I think everyone who participates on this forum should know by now that a religious nut is not capable of having this discussion. ('the bible says so', or 'god left me a post-it' seems to be popular counter-arguments.

Faerie I really like your children - they remind me of myself, only i was part of the generation who got a good beating when i rocked the proverbial boat - happy that at least that is not so anymore.

[Faerie]

Faerie I really like your children - they remind me of myself, only i was part of the generation who got a good beating when i rocked the proverbial boat - happy that at least that is not so anymore.

I rather like them too! 

I was also part of the generation that received good beatings, and hence was a horribly rebellious teen. Probably why I'm so liberal in the upbringing of my kids. I think our generation were still in the trappings of children should be seen and not heard, I was adamant not to do that with my kids, also the reason my kids are bought up English and not Afrikaans - the Afrikaner Culture is generally way too conservative.

[Lilli]

the Afrikaner Culture is generally way too conservative.

Too True! I grew up in a house where my father was the ultimate conservative afrikaans speaking christian and my mother was the ultimate free spirit english speaking hippie. guess opposites attract or something. 

Being horribly rebellious as a teen is of course excusable in the eyes of the then older generation - after all, they tend to think: 'oh shes just a kid, what does she know'. I have subsequently gotten myself into a professional situation where i would really no longer enjoy my bosses' support if they knew what i really thought about their religious views. I commend you for raising your kids in such a courageous way, because i think it would have been much easier if i were able to toe the line (i find it exceptionally difficult to keep my mouth shut at appropriate times sometimes  ) Instead i am pretty sure i am going to get myself fired pretty soon. Some things never change...

[Faerie]

because i think it would have been much easier if i were able to toe the line (i find it exceptionally difficult to keep my mouth shut at appropriate times sometimes  ) Instead i am pretty sure i am going to get myself fired pretty soon. Some things never change...

It would have been easier if I was able to toe the line too, I understand what you're saying, as for the rest, well, I happen to be looking frantically for a new job for exacly the reasons you've stated.

We're hijacking the thread a tad, is admin comfortable with this or want to divert this discussion to a new thread possibly? I personally would like to find out if the rest of us were rebellious teens and outspoken adults?

[BluEGrAY]

We're hijacking the thread a tad, is admin comfortable with this or want to divert this discussion to a new thread possibly? I personally would like to find out if the rest of us were rebellious teens and outspoken adults?

Just start a new thread and continue there, I'll move the relevant posts if needed