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Haiti Earthquake

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« on: January 18, 2010, 02:22:50 AM »

It is a real tragedy what happened or what is happening in Haiti, but this kind of thing just pisses me off. This article quotes a religious man in the midst of the chaos. Rev (You can tell from this that the man has no real qualifications) Eric Toussaint said -
"Why give thanks to God? Because we are here," Toussaint said. "We say 'Thank you God.' What happened is the will of God. We are in the hands of God now."
Besides the bit about the the killing of the looters, the rest of the article is about humanitarian aid that is pouring in to the country. Right at the end of the article, this Rev fellow shows what a prick he really is!
"I watched the destruction of the cathedral from this window," he said, pointing to a window in what remains of the archdiocese office. "I am not dead because God has a plan for me."
That's right Eric, you arrogant prat, an invisible man in the sky lay in bed thinking "Mmmm, I have a plan for Eric, but first.....let me kill thousands of innocent men, woman and children; let me slaughter their pets too; let me cause the collapse of all government services...hehe, I'll bring the place to its knees! Then Eric, my precious (To be said in your best Gollumian voice), can step up to the plate...."

Aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh!!! It just grates me!

Click on the picture to link to some Google images of the destruction etc. These kinds of disasters are horrible....and no, they don't happen because Eric has such a high opinion of himself!


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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 07:15:23 AM »

In the mind of the religious ……. Roll Eyes

On Haiti:

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Delivering his quotes Pat Robertson said, “Haitians had an agreement with the devil to remove the French from their homeland Haiti and the Haitians succeeded in that agreement with the devil assistance, that is why this quake hit smashed Haiti and ruined the Haitians.” He also added, quake was a devil blessing for Haitians so they could readdress themselves to God.

http://news.about-knowledge.com/pat-robertson-haiti-quotes/

 WTF!! that makes a lot of sense, ...a blessing from the devil, so people would worship the
opposition Huh? since when do they share fans Roll Eyes

Spouting all this crap in the name ooooF ….
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 11:51:54 AM »

But you don’t understand!  It’s those darn Haitians exercising their god-given free will injudiciously and going against their heavenly father’s will.  That incensed him deeply because he loves everyone infinitely, including all those errant Haitians.  He decided to teach them a sound lesson to get them back on the right path.  He was very gracious and wise to include many children, babies and infants who suffered and died because now several of them, though not all, are with him, safely away from the horror and carnage and bloodshed and destruction that is his infinite mercy and compassion.  And who are you to question that, hmm?

I’d’ve thought that was totally obvious. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 16:37:28 PM »

This was obviously the start of the rapture on Haiti. REPENT!
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 16:41:11 PM »

It is actually a pity that Mabus didn't consult the oracle that is the writings of Nostradamus, and warned us all of this earthquake. He could've saved many lives.

I am however, sure he's pouring over those same writings this very second to look for retro-active proof that it was PREDICTED! Wait, I feel that there's a logical failure here somewhere...
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 09:13:55 AM »

But you don’t understand!  It’s those darn Haitians exercising their god-given free will injudiciously and going against their heavenly father’s will.  That incensed him deeply because he loves everyone infinitely, including all those errant Haitians.  He decided to teach them a sound lesson to get them back on the right path.  He was very gracious and wise to include many children, babies and infants who suffered and died because now several of them, though not all, are with him, safely away from the horror and carnage and bloodshed and destruction that is his infinite mercy and compassion.  And who are you to question that, hmm?

I’d’ve thought that was totally obvious. Roll Eyes

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 Oh ok after such an in depth explanation, I can now also understand why billions
can’t deny his existence, there’s the proof Haiti……..NOT
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 11:49:17 AM »

The following extract from Candide by Voltaire refers to earthquakes that struck Lisbon in 1795.   Candide is fiction, but the religious zealotry is not:

After the earthquake, which had destroyed three-fourths of the city of Lisbon, the sages of that country could think of no means more effectual to preserve the kingdom from utter ruin than to entertain the people with an auto-da-fé, it having been decided by the University of Coimbra that burning a few people alive by a slow fire, and with great ceremony, is an infallible secret for preventing earthquakes.

In consequence, they had rounded up a Biscayner for marrying his godmother, and two Portuguese who, while eating a chicken, had set aside a piece of bacon used for seasoning.   After dinner, they came and secured Dr. Pangloss and his pupil Candide, the one for speaking his mind, and the other for seeming to approve what he said.   They were taken separately to extremely cool apartments, where they were never botherd by the glare of the sun.   Eight days afterwards they were each dressed in a san-benito, and their heads were adorned with paper mitres.   The mitre and san-benito worn by Candide were painted with upside-down flames and with devils that had neither tails nor claws; but Dr. Pangloss's devils had both tails and claws, and his flames were upright.   In these costumes they marched in procession, and heard a very pathetic sermon, which was followed by an anthem accompanied by bagpipes.   Candide was flogged to the cadence of the anthem; the Biscayner and the two men who would not eat bacon were burnt; and Pangloss was hanged, though hangings were not a common custom at these solemnities.   The same day there was another earthquake, which caused most dreadful havoc.


How religion thrives on disaster and misery!
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 13:32:12 PM »

…from which satire we have adopted the adjective “panglossian” to describe someone who is incessantly and naïvely optimistic to the point of ignoring reality.

How fitting.

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 15:22:46 PM »

...burning a few people alive by a slow fire, and with great ceremony, is an infallible secret for preventing earthquakes.

Oh, come now!  Everyone knows that a volcanic eruption can be averted by tossing a virgin into the crater every now and then, but Earthquakes? Phht! Believe this and you'll believe anything.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 17:13:34 PM »

More Haitian earthquake madness:

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/earthquake-survivors-get-solar-powered-bibles/story-e6frfku0-1225821184929
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 18:25:28 PM »


Solar Powered Bibles! 

WTF!! are they going to do with those - eat them?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 19:43:32 PM »

Randi comments on a commenter’s gormless comments.  An archbishop’s, nogal.  Why are religious “leaders” and “authorities” so often so infuriatingly, blankly banal?  Is this man perhaps senile?  Does he suffer from Alzheimer’s?

Perhaps the most telling point in his unspeakably dim theodicy is that innocent people died in this disaster because they needed reminding that they are (or, in many cases, were) fragile and vulnerable, and that they need each other and the archbishop’s version of god.

Ya lives and ya learns. Roll Eyes

ETA:  If these are supposed to be this god’s moral lessons, it’s really odd how much outrage their various interpretations can provoke.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2010, 00:20:06 AM »

If these believers think the earthquake was an act of God, someone should mention that the rescue missions were an act of Man. What gets my goat about all the "miracle" testimonies is that it's only survivors who will have a testimony in the first place. What ... did God ignore all the other 1000s of prayers and answer only yours? Get friggen real! Then again, gullibility and credulity are prerequisites for faith in the first place.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 08:02:22 AM »

The first thing I thought when hearing this news about Haiti was…

Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’un (Surely we belong to Allah (God) and to Him (God) shall we return).

The second thing was…

Sura – 4 Women (Al-Nesaa’)

[4:78] Wherever you are, death will catch up with you, even if you live in formidable castles. When something good happens to them, they say, “This is from GOD,” and when something bad afflicts them, they blame you. Say, “Everything comes from GOD.” Why do these people misunderstand almost everything?

[4:79] Anything good that happens to you is from GOD, and anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and GOD suffices as witness.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 09:53:34 AM »

Even if I suspend disbelief and for a moment and postulate that a God/Allah exists... To say that he is responsible for absolutely everything, good and bad, is still beyond my comprehension. Is there then no place for satan? What is satan then responsible for? And demons, if everything in this world happens because God wills it, then surely demons and satan cannot affect anything and are inconsequential. Moreover, if men do not have free will and everything they do are "ordained", then whether one is faithful or not, a saint or a sinner, nurse or killer, is not in the control of the individual and he shouldn't be rewarded for it, nor punished for it.

To be blunt nazzeem, I don't think any of us are going to be swayed by some nebulous quotes from any holy book you care to quote. God does not exist.

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