Re: Religious e-mails (and the evolution of the perfect snappy comeback) - split

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BoogieMonster (November 30, 2009, 11:48:16 AM):
Jesus is pretty selective:

http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/christians_underfire.htm

This is about an attack in SA, but these kinds of things aren't limited to us, of course:

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When I saw the shocking carnage at St. James Church it immediately brought similar bloody scenes flooding back into my mind. Over the last 11 years of missionary work I have personally come across dozens of similar atrocities, especially in Angola and Mozambique.
In August 1983 Frelimo troops killed 5 pastors and burnt down all 5 churches in Maskito village, Zambezia province, Mozambique. In September 1983 Frelimo troops killed over 50 Christians and burnt a church down in Pasura village. At Chilleso Evangelical Church, in Angola, Cuban troops shot 150 Christians during a church service. At New Adams farm in Zimbabwe, 16 missionaries and their children were murdered in November 1987.

Muslim mobs have burnt down hundreds of churches and killed hundreds of Christians in Nigeria. In the Sudan more than a hundred Christians were crucified earlier this year. Many hundreds of churches have been attacked in Ethiopia over the last 20 years. And there are no more churches in Somalia - the last church was burnt down and the last minister murdered late last year. And one could continue to recount literally hundreds of similar atrocities.


I guess those people didn't have Jesus in their hearts.
Midd93 (November 30, 2009, 12:09:34 PM):
I understand that you would like a link to read the story for yourself.
Now, as loathe as I am to argue with a vampire/ghost skeptic guy, I must propose the following: *gets garlic and silver bullets*

The Daily sun newspaper does not keep electronic versions of their stories on their website, you can see this for yourself if you follow the link I posted earlier.
The only way to read the story would be to purchase said respectable and reputable newspaper, or I could take a photo of the text and post it up for you guys.
Now why would you want to read the article? To show that the power of prayer was indeed not responsible for the recovery of the stolen items and criminals?

If that is the case, please bear in mind that this paper has a readership of about 4 million per day. By law, this publication is not allowed to favor or discriminate against a particular religious slant and that such a popular paper would be under obligation to investigate and research their stories extensively before printing them.
If papers could just print whatever without proof and extensive research, we would have a serious problem.

And yes, Jesus could indeed fit inside their hearts. Physically, a 2000 year old corpse would be nothing more than a bit of dust, which could fit.
Spiritually/mentally; they are motivated by psychosocial, peer and cultural belief in Jesus. This influence could be said to be "in their hearts" as it alters the cognitive - affect system.
Or even if Jesus is not a physical entity, perhaps composed of radio waves or some sort of psychic energy, Who knows? That could fit also.
Amusing visual though, a grown man trying to fit into someones heart - literally.

Perhaps it counts if part of Jesus is present. It is possible that the air they are breathing was once in Jesus' own lung, or the water in their body may have a molecule of water that was once passed through his digestive system. Perhaps even the chemicals of his body found their way in their bodies. Jesus was in their heart, in a homeopathic kinda way perhaps.

Thanks
Irreverend (November 30, 2009, 12:34:29 PM):
Ah yes, The Daily Sun. What could one possibly add to that unparalleled paragon of accurate reportage? It tells of sangoma spells as readily as resurrected dead folks. Huisgenoot and People magazine use it for a template.

In some cases you can judge a book by its cover. Sheesh.

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Midd93 (November 30, 2009, 13:23:52 PM):
cyghost (November 30, 2009, 13:33:37 PM):
I understand that you would like a link to read the story for yourself.
That is how I roll.
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Now, as loathe as I am to argue with a vampire/ghost skeptic guy, I must propose the following: *gets garlic and silver bullets*
Then why post fucked up little pictures of fucked up little newspapers as if you are making an argument of some kind in the first place?
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The Daily sun newspaper does not keep electronic versions of their stories on their website, you can see this for yourself if you follow the link I posted earlier.
I did. This isn't my problem. You are trying to say something. Do it right or leave it alone.
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The only way to read the story would be to purchase said respectable and reputable newspaper, or I could take a photo of the text and post it up for you guys.
Do the photo.
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Now why would you want to read the article? To show that the power of prayer was indeed not responsible for the recovery of the stolen items and criminals?
That is how I roll. See above.
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If that is the case, please bear in mind that this paper has a readership of about 4 million per day.
Yes because we all know that 4 million people can't possibly be wrong about anything. ::)

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And yes, Jesus could indeed fit inside their hearts. Physically, a 2000 year old corpse would be nothing more than a bit of dust, which could fit.
How would dead Jesus dust get into their hearts?
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Spiritually/mentally; they are motivated by psychosocial, peer and cultural belief in Jesus. This influence could be said to be "in their hearts" as it alters the cognitive - affect system.
Or even if Jesus is not a physical entity, perhaps composed of radio waves or some sort of psychic energy, Who knows? That could fit also.
Amusing visual though, a grown man trying to fit into someones heart - literally.
I was a cop for 8 years. Jesus was never in my heart. I doubt Jesus is in any heart in any of the ways you just described. At most he is an idea in their heads. The heart doesn't do what you think it does.

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You are welcome.

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