Threatened by a Christian

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Brian (May 03, 2010, 14:04:48 PM):
Now Steve-boy plan the revenge of the atheists for your next gig...BUT they must all be gay bodybuilders and hit on this poephol BIGTIME! >:D and let us know the result...
BoogieMonster (May 03, 2010, 16:59:16 PM):
Paraphrasing Bill Hicks:

"I was doing this show in [some hick town], and after the show some guys confronted me in the parking lot:
(southern accent) "Hey mister, we didn't like some of the things you said in there about Jesus"
"So....... forgive me."
Well, after I was released from hospital...."

This is why I'm sending my kids for Karate lessons just like I did (and am) from a young age. The point, however, would not be to beat the guy up. One of the core tenets is "Self control", and that self control has made me walk away from many fights, the bigger person. Yes, I could deck the guy, but that's not the point. To not push your luck in the first place, is the much harder, and better thing to do. (But it is nice knowing if that doesn't pan out, you can still pack the punch)

Respect Steve, also for having the balls to keep chirping even though you were obviously in an uneasy situation.

The bystanders were probably just as afraid of this brute as you were.

StevoMuso (May 03, 2010, 18:45:17 PM):
I'm pissed off that the guy you were talking to didn't even say anything. I am not too good at dealing with conflict (I have been told that I loose my temper too quickly, and get myself into boatloads of trouble because of it, so aggression is something I generally try and avoid) Seriously - he was the one who asked you about your views, and even if he doesn't agree with your views, he should not have let another guy (who had absolutely no business listening to your conversation, btw) get so aggressive.
To his credit he did at first say he was the one asking questions and said he had one more to ask. But the other guy just shouted him down - and he is a sweet gay guy who also didn't want to exacerbate the situation so he just shut up.

This is where I think GCG is correct in her interpretation of the git being the "alpha male" type. He was actually there with Monica vd Merwe (the model on who won Rapport model-of-the-month last week) and was clearly trying to "be-the-man".

And BMonster - you are also correct - had I pushed my luck and given a clever chirp it would have turned ugly. I felt like saying that if he was looking for a fight he should pick on another Christian because atheists are non-confrontational (would love to have seen his face before his fist turned out my lights heheHE).

Walking away was probably, in retrospect, the most "manly" thing to do, but I will confess, I didn't feel very manly. I felt hurt and rejected and shaken to the core.

You guys are the BEST. Thanks for all the good thoughts and kind words - and I can see you share my shock and anger and it helps.
s3c (May 03, 2010, 22:51:50 PM):
I feel your pain, I've been in a number of not quite violent but definitely hosting situations. I've been told by so called friends that I will burn in hell with a smile on their face, all the while being completely serious. I eventually refused to back down, this has had the effect that most people who challenge my views eventually disappear, leaving me not all that popular.

There is no question in my mind that having been faced with a similar situation I would have stood my ground and had the crap beat out of me, I would probably have tried to press criminal charges and failed. Sure it hurts but considering how it could have ended you came out fine, forget about it and go on.

I'm guessing your company wasn't close friends, I'd actually want to see what happens if someone like that challenges me and the group I usually hang out with, we're usually 5 Atheists, an Agnostic and a extremely laid back Christian. If the pressure builds give us a shout, we'd love to go have a beer with someone Intelligent.

O, and since this is my first post, hi everyone :)
StevoMuso (May 04, 2010, 00:05:50 AM):
I'm guessing your company wasn't close friends, I'd actually want to see what happens if someone like that challenges me and the group I usually hang out with, we're usually 5 Atheists, an Agnostic and a extremely laid back Christian. If the pressure builds give us a shout, we'd love to go have a beer with someone Intelligent.

O, and since this is my first post, hi everyone :)

Quite right - not close friends - just regular customers at one of my gigs who have come to be acquaintances (not really friends - just friendly customers). Your crowd sounds awesome - are you in Pretoria/Jhb? Do you ever get to SITP? We could do some Christian-bashing some time (metaphorically speaking of course, no violence please, we're atheists ;D).

So ... s3c ... welcome to Skeptics.za. You will find many like-minded people here and I, for one at least, hope you find and forge some cyber-friendships here as many of us have.

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