Threatened by a Christian

[mdg]

maybe we can make a Pretoria SITP of our own - coffee for both the skeptics in Pta heheHE 

This is how the original SITP started, with Angela - The Skeptic Detective and James - Acinonyx Scepticus. It grew from there, so don't feel bad if it's just the 2 of you to start off with.

mdg

[GCG]

hey!!!
the midrand sceptic is being left out to dry here!!!!
waar de moer must i go?

[Lilli]

I'm also in Pretoria East. Can't do Wednesdays though. Sorry I missed the last one. Don't remember why I did though, but I am sure I had a valid excuse at the time... 

[Mandarb]

If you guys want to set up a May SITP let me know, I'll set up the Facebook event. The main problem is that someone has to take the lead, and commit to being there, otherwise it's more a situation of people pitching up, there's no one there, and then they don't come back.

I normally arrange the Pretoria SITP, but I can't attend this month, so I haven't made any arrangements.

[StevoMuso]

hey!!!
the midrand sceptic is being left out to dry here!!!!
waar de moer must i go?

Midrand-ers are lucky enough to go to both GCG - you gonna be in Jozi tonight? Cresta is a bit far for me, not distance-wise but because of having to fight that farking highway, but I'm gonna try because the last one (in Edenvale) was awesome.

Lilli

I'm also in Pretoria East. Can't do Wednesdays though.

I usually can't do Weds either - time is such a bugger sometimes. Heck, I work at night so it's always gonna be difficult. Maybe we can find some way to find a common time/day because you know ... it's really worth it. How often do you get to spend an entire night without having to watch what you say regarding religion?

And Mandarb

I normally arrange the Pretoria SITP, but I can't attend this month, so I haven't made any arrangements.

Thanks for doing it in the past. I would gladly do the arranging but I'm not too good at that kind of thing. Next week Tuesday (the 11th of May) I will be attending a debate on the Kalam cosmological argument by Dr Craig at the University of Pretoria. Maybe we could all meet there (at the Philosophy dept), add our skeptic-wisdom, and then hit the pub afterwards.

Could be fun ...

[Lilli]

How often do you get to spend an entire night without having to watch what you say regarding religion?

More nights than days... seems the woo-woos need their beauty sleep while all the fun people come out to play when the sun sets. 

Next week Tuesday (the 11th of May) I will be attending a debate on the Kalam cosmological argument by Dr Craig at the University of Pretoria. Maybe we could all meet there (at the Philosophy dept), add our skeptic-wisdom, and then hit the pub afterwards.
Could be fun ...

Agreed, sounds like fun - not an extremely challenging theory to punch holes in though... What time? And which one is the philosophy department's building?

[Mandarb]

Steve, give me the time, and if you can, a bit more detail on precisely where (UP is pretty big), and I'll create a event.

[GCG]

Cresta is a goodly 25kms from my work.  Fighting the traffic getting on and off at Rivonia, William Nicol, Beyers, Malibongwe.  Doesnt work.
Menlyn is 36 kms.
Pretoria east is 40kms.
Edenvale is 23kms.

all in all, too far to go when you are fighting traffic.  at night, work roadworks, and taxi's.  I'm willing and able to drive up to like 15kms, but that's my limit.

[Lilli]

Fair enough. Suggest a place in the direction of Pta East, I would be willing to meet you half way

[s3c]

It depends on what time on the 11'th but I like the University Of Pretoria idea, anyone have some more details on the event?

[StevoMuso]

I'm willing and able to drive up to like 15kms, but that's my limit.

Here's an idea ... we can have the Jo'burg one in Midrand next month (it's not too far and then we can include GCG). Next Wednesday I am playing a gig at Coco Brazil in Midrand - maybe some of us reprobates can meet there i.e. Wed 12th May. I'm only playing for an hour (it's an audition gig) and then we can talk, drink, have fun. Sound like a plan?

[StevoMuso]

Steve, give me the time, and if you can, a bit more detail on precisely where (UP is pretty big), and I'll create a event.

I will get the details and post them on your new thread - thanks Mandarb 

[rwenzori]

Excuse the late response to the OP.

Steve, I think you quite did the right thing by stepping away from the ugly situation. I really don't see how letting it develop into a bar-room brawl would get you anywhere. I mean, if some huge wall of mindless moronic muscle wants to moer you, discretion is way the better part of valour. Else it's bust teeth, bruises, stitches, damages to be paid for wrecked furniture/glasses/bottles,  and possibly a charge with the police, which leads to 2 years of lost dockets, court postponements, worry, lawyers, expense, and major hassle. All for some stupid skaap whose mommy never taught him how to behave in public.

Be mad, but remember him - try to get his name, where he works, and if an opportunity arises, get even. I will admit to sticking the knife in to those who have crossed me on a number of occasions in my life - typically when the bastard is looking for employment, or for someone to invest in some scheme of his. "Oh, you interviewed old Frikkie did you? I wouldn't touch him if I were you - can't say too much, but there were 'issues' with him."

Wot goeth around cometh around, hehe! 

[Julian]

Next week Tuesday (the 11th of May) I will be attending a debate on the Kalam cosmological argument by Dr Craig at the University of Pretoria. Maybe we could all meet there (at the Philosophy dept), add our skeptic-wisdom, and then hit the pub afterwards.

Cool! Who is he debating? As I understand it the Kalam argument is the best of a poor bunch of arguments for the existence of the big guy in the sky. And Craig is its leading exponent, and he normally hands his atheist opponents their ass on a platter.

[StevoMuso]

Next week Tuesday (the 11th of May) I will be attending a debate on the Kalam cosmological argument by Dr Craig at the University of Pretoria. Maybe we could all meet there (at the Philosophy dept), add our skeptic-wisdom, and then hit the pub afterwards.

Cool! Who is he debating? As I understand it the Kalam argument is the best of a poor bunch of arguments for the existence of the big guy in the sky. And Craig is its leading exponent, and he normally hands his atheist opponents their ass on a platter.

Well, Tuesday isn't the official debate. He is presenting a paper on his pet subject Kalam. Some Prof from UP is giving a paper with a counter-argument. It was going to be me but internal UP politics took control of the situation and I lost the gig.

After the two "papers" are delivered the "floor" will be given a chance to ask a few questions. Prof Mabille asked me to please prepare some questions for this section of the evening - which I am doing with the help of Dan Barker. If more of us could attend it will be soooooo cool. Then we can all go and have a beer somewhere.

Julian - read the letter Dan sent me. I posted it here http://forum.skeptic.za.org/religion-and-philosophy/kalam-cosmological-argument/msg10159/#msg10159