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« on: October 06, 2011, 17:09:17 PM »

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/09/homeopathic-leak-threatens-catastrophe/

Homeopathic leak threatens catastrophe


An accidental release of highly dilute homeopathic waste from a research institute in Swindon has led to calls for the centre to be shut down.  Plant operators have admitted responsibility for massive safety blunders after a spilled drop of an enormously dilute test product was cleaned by a caretaker, and in complete disregard of all safety procedures, allowed to enter the water system after he emptied his mop bucket down the drain.
 
Institute staff have been cooperating with homeopathy regulatory safety officers and a team of engineers from Thames Water – working around the clock to minimise the risk of further dilution.
 
Still, the plant remains open – a spokesman claimed that their pioneering research into a cure for mild feelings of insecurity has reached a point that it must not be stopped. He then locked himself in his office and told reporters to leave him alone.
 
Local reaction has been mixed – many of course are living in fear – the latest advice has been for locals not to wash their vegetables before cooking. Some demand the plant be closed down. But others have taken a more pragmatic view, and accept that sometimes great advances in medical pseudoscience can come at a heavy price.
 
But everyone is in agreement that the emergency workers who came to the aid of the stricken plant yesterday are the true heroes. Some firefighers may have been exposed to dilutions as high as D8000 during the frantic race to prevent the atomic memory of the waste from reaching the Thames. Next to the Plant are seven abandoned Fire Engines – exposed to such dangerously low concentrations of homeopathic contamination that they can never be used again – they will eventually be entombed in concrete where they lie.
 
Local Fire Chief, Boutros-Boutros Jones gave a frank account of the current situation; ‘We have to accept that we’ve lost the battle locally, two water treatment works may never be safe to use again, but the fight to contain this and prevent further dilution is still on. Clearly if this reaches the sea, it’s game over.’
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 08:21:51 AM »

my god.  they are going on as if it's a nuclear emergency.  it's hocus-pocus people!!!  wow.  i wonder, if all these people with opinions, how many of them actually have half a clue what they are talking about.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 08:32:26 AM »

It’s satire, lampoonery and parody, ergo it’s in the “Fun” section.  Homoeopathy’s basic assumption of increased potency with dilution gets a dunking.

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 08:45:19 AM »

It’s satire, lampoonery and parody, ergo it’s in the “Fun” section.  Homoeopathy’s basic assumption of increased potency with dilution gets a dunking.

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Exactly.  I think it's from Newsbiscuit.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 09:01:25 AM »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

LOL!!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 16:57:23 PM »

It’s satire, lampoonery and parody, ergo it’s in the “Fun” section.  Homoeopathy’s basic assumption of increased potency with dilution gets a dunking.
Thanx for pointing that out I was close to getting the bliksem in! :p
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 17:44:43 PM »

Perhaps parody becomes more potent as it becomes more diluted with some people's version of "truth".
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 17:59:11 PM »

Thanx for pointing that that out…
Er, pleasure.  ’Twas for the benefit of… Kiss

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 20:04:03 PM »

It’s satire, lampoonery and parody, ergo it’s in the “Fun” section.  Homoeopathy’s basic assumption of increased potency with dilution gets a dunking.

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 I would recommend the following site for scientific based research and evidence that supports Homeopathy.http://www.extraordinarymedicine.org/2011/01/14/extraordinary-evidence-homeopathys-best-research/.
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 I would recommend the following site for scientific based research and evidence that supports Homeopathy.http://www.extraordinarymedicine.org/2011/01/14/extraordinary-evidence-homeopathys-best-research/.
You’ll have to explain that joke to me.  As it stands, it’s too dilute for my 1X sense of humour… Wink

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 12:58:26 PM »

I get the joke and it did make me laugh Grin.I'm a skeptic but i do not dismiss homeopathy out of hand ,for me there is enough evidence to support homeopathy as a genuine health practice.The thing with homeopathy is nobody really knows why it works and this frustrates many a scientist and doctor to take it seriously.Many misconceptions that are posted all over the internet don't help either.It is an ongoing debate.Modern medicine on the other hand has a lot of answering to do in my view.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 13:15:29 PM »

for me there is enough evidence to support homeopathy as a genuine health practice.The thing with homeopathy is nobody really knows why it works and this frustrates many a scientist and doctor to take it seriously.Many misconceptions that are posted all over the internet don't help either.It is an ongoing debate.Modern medicine on the other hand has a lot of answering to do in my view.

You lose your skeptical credibility when you claim that nobody really knows WHY it works, when the fact is that nobody has ever shown that it does work, or has any effect whatsoever beyond placebo. The foundational claims of homeopathic principles were thumb-sucked in the 18th century and have never been verified through anything more scientific than multiplying anecdotes. Like curing like and dilution to increase effect are meaningless concepts. How can 'correct' dilution be determined when there were no measurable results in the first place?

Skepticism is NOT accepting wild claims based on anecdotes.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 13:18:53 PM »

This will not go well. Grin

Where is that popcorn eating emoticon when you need it? 

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2011, 13:18:57 PM »

i do not dismiss homeopathy out of hand ,for me there is enough evidence to support homeopathy as a genuine health practice.

Please provide?

and, welcome here by the way.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2011, 13:31:52 PM »

My turn:  The real joke is actually that it’s almost invariably homoeopaths who keep showing positive results (i.e. above placebo).  This is about as convincing as psychics “validating” psychic ability or astrologers “validating” astrology or theologians “validating” religious tenets.  Whenever an impartial authority undertakes a study or a meta-analysis of homoeopathy, the well comes up dry much more often than not.  One consistent result that is very curious indeed is that there is a negative correlation between how tightly controlled a study is and the magnitude of the homoeopathic effect it finds:  The tighter the controls, the smaller the effect.  Moreover, homoeopaths don’t do themselves and their cause any favours by pigheadedly insisting on the unshakeable truth of Hahnemann’s homoeopathic principles (which fly in the face of well-established science), and their “provings” for identifying new treatments are so loose, anaemic and rigorless that they constitute another funny prank all of their own.

A dismissal of homoeopathy is therefore hardly out of hand.

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