Cholesterol causes heart disease?

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cyghost (February 11, 2011, 13:05:50 PM):
As a pharmacist I am going to go out on a limb here and say that none of the pharmaceutical companies are.
This sounds entirely reasonable and as no evidence to the contrary have been presented, I'll let the matter rest until such evidence is in fact forthcoming. Checks and balances are always a good thing and I am happy to hear we have these with respects to the pharmaceutical profession. Do keep up the good work.
bluegray (February 11, 2011, 14:19:43 PM):
...some posts split to: Cholesterol causes heart disease? [split]
Lurkie (February 11, 2011, 18:11:15 PM):
I stumbled across THINCS (The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics) about two years ago, while on a similar personal research quest. What is interesting is that the most recent discussion entries are dated Feb 2006 (

My immediate thought (flippant, I know) was that the forum members must've all croaked. I showed the website to some medic buddies of mine who reckoned that I could test these ideas at my peril.

Anyway, I found a supplement from our local pharmacy called "Phytocor", which is advertised to drop one's total cholesterol by approx two units. has lived up to its promise, and no side-effects have been obvious. I'm not sure whether taking this is better or worse than taking statins, but the side-effects seem less and one doesn't need a script.

wandapec, what is your pharmacist's opinion of Phytocor?
Andysor (February 11, 2011, 20:27:33 PM):
Phytocor's active ingredient is Policosanol and a quick search reveals that the only clinical large scale trials have taken place in Cuba, which owns the patent, while other small scale trials outside of Cuba have found no benefit.

If it's worked for you could it be attributed to placebo or having made other changes and attributing the improvement to the drug?
Lurkie (March 01, 2011, 10:26:22 AM):
Placebo effect? I don't think so. If anything, my S/O would suffer from a kind of "anti-placebo" effect.

Lifestyle changes ... yep, that did change. Our lifestyle actually got a little worse (anti-placebo effect at work?). Perhaps there's scope for some studies exploring the relationships between diets of sandwiches, tea & coffee, Pringles, Nik Naks, beer, biltong, prego rolls, winegums, few vegetables and cholesterol levels? And throw in some good TV series that we watched addictively. Some may think that we were testing the efficacy of the supplement by behaving far worse, but if I'm honest, it's because at heart we are both hedonists.


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