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« on: March 29, 2011, 19:36:49 PM »

It's been around a few years. It's local. It's catching on (based on my circle of acquaintances). It's our own home-grown woo woo.

 http://humanpincode.blogspot.com 

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 20:02:32 PM »

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What is the Pincode? Your personality and processing styles were imprinted in you on the day that you were born. Pincodes is a science it is used by Doctors, Psychologist [sic], Accountants, Teachers and Forensic Detectives and more. Allot [sic] of people in different Careers all around the World use Pincodes in their daily life to understand themselves and the people around them better.


I giggled

Surely people cannot take this seriously??
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 20:19:01 PM »

First, I read this.  It’s like trying to read a coked-up Jack Russell puppy in the middle of electroshock therapy.

Then I started reading the following:
In my theory of atomic structure, I will share with you some information. We need to understand the size, the construction and behaviour of one single hydrogen atom. This is what my work has been about. …

First I had to separate time and space, then it was possible to go to into a 'black hole' and see what happens 'on the other side'. In this process, I had to map the exact proportion, speed, and number of revolutions the electron would circumnavigate the nucleus. Then imagine this whole process could be 'photographed' revolution by revolution, each movement or 'frame' would need to be calculated, the dimensions recorded, data captured and then proved. Thus I discovered that the electron moves in a spiral trajectory, and not round and round as first thought.
I honestly couldn’t finish reading this stuff.  It is so wide of the mark of what we do know about spacetime, atomic structure and the properties of subatomic particles that it reads like a parody.  Except, alas, it’s not.  Forbes is so completely clueless on the things he talks about here that one must seriously wonder if it’s worth the effort debunking this hooey.  Those who can see it’s hooey don’t need it debunked and those who can’t see it won’t be open in any way to reasoned argument.

It’s undue respect for ill-informed brainspasms à la Forbes’s that’ll be humanity’s undoing yet.

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 07:10:23 AM »

I got as far as this:

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The Human Pin Code
The Human Pin Code is a scientific method of analyzing your personality, as imprinted on your day of birth.


and lost interest.

utter bullshit.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 08:33:56 AM »

the only thing imprinted on you, is on the day of conception, and it's called DNA.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 10:42:21 AM »

Yes I have ADD and yes I usually derail the subject... but  Tongue....

Isn't there a concept of DNA based "knowledge" that you gain at birth too? Things like being able to breastfeed and having sexual drive, etc. Afaik animals have MORE of this than humans, ex: lots of animals get up and walk moments after birth. Humans allegedly have LESS of it, however their brains are much more adaptable after the birth to learn new things (albeit that it takes much longer to become self sufficient).

I can imagine that personality traits could also be part of this "dna based information"?
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 11:03:44 AM »

What is so darn hard about this concept!?  Genes give us propensities for following certain behaviours.  They do not guarantee that individuals will actually behave according to their genetic make-up.  To think otherwise is to reveal a profoundly poor understanding of how genes stand in relation to behavioural traits (or to torture it into something it’s decidedly not) — an oft-repeated error of thinking that has time and again been shown up by examples of twins, identical or not, separated at birth.  In view of the aforesaid, the notion of a genetic predetermination of personality, i.e. a “human PIN code,” is demonstrable baloney.

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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 11:33:31 AM »

Sigh, and this is why I always try to qualify everything I say but alas frequently people still get me wrong.

Yes, DNA gives us a propensity, gene expression can change too, etc etc.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 13:34:12 PM »

Isn't there a concept of DNA based "knowledge" that you gain at birth too? …

I can imagine that personality traits could also be part of this "dna based information"?
The above isn’t suitably qualified re genetic heritability.  Nor is it compatible, even in principle, with the following.
Yes, DNA gives us a propensity, gene expression can change too, etc etc.

Unfortunately, your previous post left me with the very distinct impression that to an appreciable extent you’re buying into this “behavioural programming” based on genetics, ergo my reaction.  There is nothing in modern evolutionary theory to support such a view because a predisposition for certain behaviours is quite far removed from those behaviours being hardwired into an organism.  They persist on the genetic level only to the extent that behaving in line with those predispositions is, on the whole, circumstantially beneficial.  The crucial difference to be entirely clear about and which cannot be stressed enough is the same as that developing a dextrous pair of hands is genetically determined, whereas using them for specific tasks is not.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 14:27:16 PM »

...or to illustrate Mefiante's point in another way; You may have a genetic propensity to be an Olympic swimming champion a la Michael Phelps but may have been born in the Sahara desert...so you die an Arab! However, if you take say 100 dirty Arab kids and immerse them in a swimming pool; teach them to swim and give them all that's needed to excel, the Arabic Michael Phelps should emerge...the rest will probably drown or herd camels!  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 14:51:30 PM »

Isn't there a concept of DNA based "knowledge" that you gain at birth too? Things like being able to breastfeed and having sexual drive, etc.
I think you are referring to what is commonly known as instinct.  Our brains cannot be blank slates when we are born.  Certain "knowledge" must have been captured already prior to birth.  Birth should not be seen as a neurologically significant event.  The more primitive species rely more on instinct, as you have pointed out.  The propensity to act in a specific way would then be stronger.  Individual bees don't have much choice in how they construct their honeycomb.
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 15:20:22 PM »

You may have a genetic propensity to be an Olympic swimming champion a la Michael Phelps but ...
...you die stuck to a chair with maggot glue because you were too lazy to get off your sorry arse and into the pool.
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