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« on: January 06, 2011, 14:09:46 PM »

I see that the 2010 Gr 12 results are out with an improvement over previous years. Is that because of a genuine improvement, a more relaxed exam or a not so stringent marking of the papers? In 2010 there was the World cup and strike so pupils lost a lot of work days. I am somewhat sceptical about this.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 14:25:45 PM »

I wrote (and passed) Matric in 2003. A good friend of mine's daughter wrote (and also passed) in 2009. I saw some of her exam papers, and tutored her in Math prior to the exams. My opinion at that stage was that the curriculum had certainly changed, but not that it had become any easier. I would like to compare some of the latest exam papers. Of course, Matric was pretty damn easy in 2003 too - my final English (Second Language, unfortunately) paper actually posted the question: "you wear a necklace around your neck. Where do you wear a bracelet?"
Yep, they gave us 2 marks if we got that one one right...
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 14:58:06 PM »

I wrote (and passed) Matric in 2003.
Yup, I remember it bein' purty hard back then...   Cry

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 15:13:19 PM »

Gee, I dunno.  I wrote in 1976 and my son wrote this year (IEB).  His syllabus is harder than mine was, I think.  For example, we didn't do calculus even for higher grade, but they do it now.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 15:16:36 PM »

... we didn't do calculus

Why the username then - irony Wink?

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 15:18:32 PM »

... we didn't do calculus

Why the username then - irony Wink?

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Ha!  did it later at 'varsity..
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 15:31:58 PM »

My son's in matric this year, and I'm dreading it.  I dont make heads or tails of his work (admittedly I didnt do the same subjects), I'm of an opinion that its on par with what we did back in the 80's. What is not on par is the level of teaching taking place, he's been taking extra classes for Maths, science and accounting since Grade 10, and whilst his marks are fair, its far from achieving a distinction.  He's in a good school which has managed a fairly consistent 100% pass rate for the last couple years (dunno about 2010 though).
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 00:03:50 AM »

Gee, I dunno.  I wrote in 1976 and my son wrote this year (IEB).  His syllabus is harder than mine was, I think.  For example, we didn't do calculus even for higher grade, but they do it now.
Hey st0nes, I also did matric in '76 - Pretoria Boy's High. But excuse my ignorance, how is your username linked to calculus?
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 06:53:26 AM »

Gee, I dunno.  I wrote in 1976 and my son wrote this year (IEB).  His syllabus is harder than mine was, I think.  For example, we didn't do calculus even for higher grade, but they do it now.
Hey st0nes, I also did matric in '76 - Pretoria Boy's High. But excuse my ignorance, how is your username linked to calculus?
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   /ˈkalkjʊləs/
noun

      1 (plural calculuses)(also infinitesimal calculus)[mass noun] the branch of mathematics that deals with the finding and properties of derivatives and integrals of functions, by methods originally based on the summation of infinitesimal differences. The two main types are differential calculus and integral calculus.
But also
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      3 (plural calculi /-lʌɪ, -liː/)Medicinea hard mass formed by minerals within the body, especially in the kidney or gall bladder.
My nickname is after the Rolling Stones, who may or may not be named after kidney stones.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 07:24:03 AM »

I wrote (and passed) Matric in 2003.
Yup, I remember it bein' purty hard back then...   Cry 
Was it? Dunno, I thought most of it was pretty straight forward. Say what you want about how tough it was in the '80s or whenever, people still have to pass matric if they want to get into a university, get a degree and get a job other than flipping burgers (not that I have anything against people flipping burgers, they play a very important role in society) My matric was good enough to get me accepted into a bridging programme at the conservatory of Amsterdam (which I would have had to do even if I was in school in the Netherlands by the way) and a kid getting my grades with my subjects today would most likely also be accepted. So I'm not saying that the standards have/have not dropped, I'm saying its a pretty tough one to prove since none of us who wrote matric at any time in the past are likely to do it again now. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 08:41:55 AM »

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I also did matric in '76 - Pretoria Boy's High
I am also a '76 boy. Morgenzon Landbou Skool.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 12:07:07 PM »

The other issue: passed with what subjects at what level? How many of those 67% are going to gain University entrance?

On another note, there is a wonderful TED talk, on the strange never questioned way in which we educate. Why we value certain subjects over others. http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 16:32:59 PM »


My nickname is after the Rolling Stones, who may or may not be named after kidney stones.

Thanks for clarifying. I always thought the Stones were named from a song, and so it seems to be - by Muddy Waters, and it has these classic lyrics:

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Well, I wish I was a catfish,
swimmin in a oh, deep, blue sea
I would have all you good lookin women,
fishin, fishin after me

Which, apropos of nuffing, brings us the song Catfish John, which the Dead recorded, IIRC.

There must be something to these catfish thingies.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 16:45:23 PM »

Ha!  did it later at 'varsity..

I did it in matric Additional Maths, which allowed me to do Maths I at varsity and pass without sitting through the endless long 3-hour tuts.  Smiley

Lazily, I gave up on Mafs and went off artsy-fartsy after that.

My daughter though had Differentiation as part of her ( Cambridge ) matric maths, so the standard syllabus does seem to be more advanced than in my day ( which was so long ago the hypotenuse was just being invented ).
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 17:15:45 PM »

I always thought the Stones were named from a song, and so it seems to be - by Muddy Waters…
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Yes, that’s my understanding also, though it may be urban musical legend.  Muddy Waters (“he invented electricity”) did release an album titled Mississippi Rollin’ Stone (though he came from Chicago) in the 50s and, according to the story, that is where Mick Jagger and his crew took their name.
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