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benguela (February 02, 2009, 21:23:34 PM):
Why is it considered woo?

I have not seen any systematically reviewed study that has proven that dry needling (which I believe is acupuncture in disguise) is any better than a placebo. You have only supplied anecdotal evidence which is how homeopathy gets such a good PR, people claiming that it worked for them.

The best evidence I have seen is only suggestive, but because the quality of the study is poor, it should not be used as a basis for treatment. Acupuncture and dry-needling for low back pain

Therefor I would not pay physio's a small fortune for some treatment that might work but is more likely to be as good as a sugar pill in the guise of an anti-inflammatory.

bluegray (February 03, 2009, 12:29:51 PM):
Welcome to the forum MrDickens. ;)
I would also like to know how poking a needle into a muscle affects it - as you said, your body must have some reaction to it. Maybe the poke from the needle temporarily distracts from the muscle pain? Whether it makes anything better in the long run, I don't know.
She explained that the needle was inserted into the muscle knot and caused it to twitch, thus releasing the tension and getting it back to normal functioning/state. I did indeed feel the twitch/es. And it does feel better. She said the needling was a lot better than actually massaging which is more painful. One muscle spasm was deep, so she said she'd have to work it out with her hands rather than the needle, and it was damn painful.

So she used the dry needling as a replacement for massaging because it is less painful? Did she mention if it's more effective? Did she try to stick a needle into the spasm that was too deep?
So... um, skeptical as I am, I must say the needling seems to have worked... of course, combined with massage and realigning my neck (that horrible clickcluckclack sound).

Ooo, that clickclack is a another can of worms ;)
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