Porn as the Evil

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GCG (July 29, 2010, 15:35:38 PM):
I have, following a completely arb chain of links from Wikileaks, and ended up on a page, that pretty much says the following,
and a whole schpiel of other argument, for and against porn.
i have never really thought all that hard about it.
* porn causes child abuse
* porn causes infidelity
* kids get harmed by watching porn
* sexual trafficing and porn goes hand-in-hand
* could porn prevent rape
* etc, etc.

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Michael Meadon (July 29, 2010, 15:58:07 PM):
I've read only bits of the formal literature but, AFAIK and IIRC, none of these claims stand up to scrutiny.

(It does seem to be true, though, that pedophiles uses child porn to groom victims. But I take it this ISN'T what we're talking about -- all sane people agree child porn should be illegal whether or not it helps pedophiles with grooming).
GCG (July 29, 2010, 16:20:16 PM):
a tidbit i had researched a while back.
they claim homosexuals are the main culprits of child molestation. when a study was done, it turned out less than 1% of gay men had any pedophillic tendancies. so much for that woo claim.

in my opinion, i think that kids were exposed to more sexual behaviour before the advent of tv/internet.
back in the day, mom and dad would be at it right next door to timmy. 12 kids in a four bedroom house.
watching the farm hands get it on in the field/barn.
i think we underestimate how resourcefull kids are to find smut. without the benefit of tv, phones or internet.
i do, however, have a problem with popular tv shows making teen-sex out to be cool and something to aspire to.
there is a show on, gossip girl. the girls have agendas to seduce the guys, the guys try to get laid and drunk as often as possible. 15 year olds move out of their parents houses to pursue a career in fashion design. and they are all still in school. if the characters were out of school, employed,etc, i might not have such a huge problem with them going at it like rabbits.
given, that untill like 50 years ago, kids got married at like 16 years old. but we are supposed to keep them in school, with their heads in the books, in the crack houses.
Brian (July 29, 2010, 16:52:26 PM):
I have, following a completely arb chain of links from Wikileaks, and ended up on a page, that pretty much says the following,
and a whole schpiel of other argument, for and against porn.
i have never really thought all that hard about it.
* porn causes child abuse
* porn causes infidelity
* kids get harmed by watching porn
* sexual trafficing and porn goes hand-in-hand
* could porn prevent rape
* etc, etc.

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It reminds me somewhat of the time when the apartheid bosses stated that big families cause poverty...the opposite has been shown to the case in general terms.
In answer to your question GCG, will child abuse, infidelity, sexual traficking, rape be diminished if porn was unavailable? I doubt it....it may go underground more though.

In my young years we had no TV, no Playboy, nutting... censorship was strict, blacks were not allowed to have sex with whites etc but it still happened and vice versa etc...it was our biggest ambition just to get to see a f.nny, let alone experience one with tactile and visual senses!@!
GCG (July 29, 2010, 17:17:49 PM):
that's what i thought. i think, the only thing thats making the whole situation seem out of hand, is that kids have zero respect for elders anymoe. they get away with murder. so parents have to sit back and watch them self-destruct.

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