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« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2016, 12:11:40 PM »

Alas I don't read much in the traditional sense... maybe a book a year if I get around to it. My reading is more sporadic and internet based, or I read a couple of chapters of a book to get a feel and then realise I'm not so into it... For example:

I've recently read some stuff by Malcolm Gladwell mostly because he's been blowing up in the younger's zeitgeist. I've had him quoted at me multiple times at social events subsequently, or bits from his books repeated verbatim: I have thus prepared to blow some skepticism at the quoters. Fun is to be had when you know people's sources ahead of time.

Gladwell is actually an excellent storyteller and can hold your interest with deft technique.. he's an able conveyor of interesting and thought-provoking tidbits. What I do find though is the "science" seems less present. He's more into unique and contrary ideas but the facts could be up to interpretation, but are mostly hugely anecdotal.

So I recommend that he's read but with a skeptical outlook.

For pure fiction, SciFi is the only thing that can hold my attention and in that genre my favourite novel(s) by far is "Pandora's Star" and it's follow-up "Judas Unchained" by Peter Hamilton. I've recommended these before to various people (prob. here too) and always get glowing reviews back. But it is meant for longer attention spans... the whole story spans something like 2000 pages. It takes a long time to get going but by the end of the 1st novel you're left breathless and in awe of this writer (from multiple friends' reviews).
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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2016, 13:00:57 PM »

If you want to catch up on some classics that you have missed, you could download them free from Project Gutenberg.  They've got some really good stuff there, for instance W. Somerset Maugham's books have fallen out of copyright, and are in the public domain. I've got my e-reader packed with enough to keep me going for years, and all free as the air.
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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2016, 14:46:25 PM »

Unfortunately Project Gutenberg Americanizes the text.  I find it awkward reading a Dickens in which the navy has been replaced with the marines.
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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2016, 14:50:49 PM »

Unfortunately Project Gutenberg Americanizes the text.  I find it awkward reading a Dickens in which the navy has been replaced with the marines.
I do proofreading for PG, and we're very careful to match the original text.  We certainly don't 'Americanize' anything.  To which Dickens do you refer?
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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2016, 15:00:30 PM »

To which Dickens do you refer?
David Copperfield.  I'm fairly sure at some places an extra floor was added to buildings as well, but I do not have a printed copy to check that.
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« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2016, 15:31:10 PM »

To which Dickens do you refer?
David Copperfield.  I'm fairly sure at some places an extra floor was added to buildings as well, but I do not have a printed copy to check that.
The only instances of the word 'Marines' occurs in this paragraph:
Quote from: Charles Dickens David Copperfield
I cannot satisfy myself whether she told me that Mr. Micawber had been
an officer in the Marines, or whether I have imagined it. I only know
that I believe to this hour that he WAS in the Marines once upon a time,
without knowing why. He was a sort of town traveller for a number
of miscellaneous houses, now; but made little or nothing of it, I am
afraid.
I checked on the Internet Archive for an early edition, but couldn't find it. A search on Google, however, came up with numerous editions that have the same text.  Perhaps Mr Micawber was an officer in the Royal Marines, and this is nothing to do with 'Americanization?'
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« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2016, 15:52:50 PM »

I checked on the Internet Archive for an early edition, but couldn't find it. A search on Google, however, came up with numerous editions that have the same text.  Perhaps Mr Micawber was an officer in the Royal Marines, and this is nothing to do with 'Americanization?'
You may well be right here.  I seem to recall instances where the spelling was American as well and will in future make notes.
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« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2016, 16:01:57 PM »

Unfortunately Project Gutenberg Americanizes

Wouldn't that be Americanise? Tongue
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« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2016, 16:03:09 PM »

Unfortunately Project Gutenberg Americanizes

Wouldn't that be Americanise? Tongue
No, not if it's been Americanised.
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« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2016, 16:49:20 PM »

Unfortunately Project Gutenberg Americanizes

Wouldn't that be Americanise? Tongue
No, not if it's been Americanised.
The South African Pocket Oxford Dictionary gives preference to the spelling with a z, but with the s as an alternative.  I guess Project Gutenberg should then spell it with an s if the source is English.  Grin
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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2016, 17:03:48 PM »

The South African Pocket Oxford Dictionary gives preference to the spelling with a z, but with the s as an alternative.  I guess Project Gutenberg should then spell it with an s if the source is English.  Grin
Depends entirely on how the original author spelt it.  It would only be changed if the spelling was inconsistent, in which case the post-processor would choose one spelling or the other, and include a transcriber's note to point out the changes.
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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2016, 18:05:59 PM »

St0nes, what I should have mentioned from the start is that I hold Project Gutenberg in very high regard and merely raising a few small points.  I am pleased to learn that you are involved in editing there - it's a noble occupation.  I often make use of this excellent source of literature.

As far as the spelling of Americanis(/z)e is concerned, one may take the view that the future tense is with an s, the past tense with a z and the present tense debatable!  Evil

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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2016, 15:47:12 PM »

One I forgot to mention, but that is required reading for everyone: "The Black Swan," by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. He neatly shows how more or less everything we think we know is nonsense. :-)
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« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2016, 18:06:49 PM »

Faerie I think you'll enjoy the psychological thriller Mice by Gordon Reese. It has lots of displaced revenge in it which I found toe-curlingly good.

I picked up a copy at the Crazy Store (do you have them up country?) for next to nothing. If you can't get hold of the book PM me your postal address.

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« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2016, 07:12:50 AM »

Thanks Rigil, found it on Loot, so no worries.

@brianvds, have you read Antifragile? It appears to be a follow on to The Black Swan and I've plonked it on my wishlist once I've read The Black Swan.

Boogie, I've ordered the lot (Gladwell), I've got one of his books at home but for the life of me cannot remember which one but the subject matter appeals to me so I've gone whole hog....  Smiley

Some Happy reading laying ahead for me!

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