Road works

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Tweefo (November 13, 2008, 21:16:00 PM):
For those who don't live in Joburg or Pretoria. There are massive roadworks on the highways. They are putting in more lanes as the existing ones can't handle the amount of cars and trucks. Something need to be done, but is this the way to go? I don't think so. Most cars only have the driver inside it. We are just going to fill those lanes as well. The Gautrain is a step in the right direction, but we need more, as this will only be convenient for some. The South African middle class mindset also need to change. Public transport is not an evil thing. I would rather have a cup of coffee and read the newspaper, than inch along while cursing at the car in front of me. Today it took 75 minutes to go from Randburg to Benoni. That was at midday, not rush hour.
Sentinel (November 13, 2008, 21:30:57 PM):
I lived there for a number of years. Although current traffic cannot be compared to what it was 5 years ago, it was still hell to go from one client to the next. Not to mention rush hour traffic.

Should a safe alternative be found, things may improve. That, combined with toll gates at every entrance to the city and surrounding areas (like London), and the mindset might change.
Sico (November 18, 2008, 16:39:47 PM):
won't more lanes on the highways cause more cars? I mean if people stay off the highways due to the congestion, surely relieveing the congestion will cause more people to use them. I'm all for taking the cars out of the suburbs and having them on the highways but it only seems like a temporary solution.
i think the government should improve our rail services, and then tax road freight. this would force more people to transport cargo by rail, think of how many trucks you would take off the N3 and N1 from our main ports if there were three to four trains a day instead. one train can carry the same amount of cargo that 150 trucks can, at less cost. there would be fewer road accidents as a result of poorly maintained trucks, tired drivers and negligent drivers, and the damage to our roads would be less which would again save money.
As far as public transport goes, our major cities like johannesburg and pretoria need an underground system. the Gautrain is a waste of time, as, once people travel from pretoria to johannesburg, how do they get fromt he gautrain station to their office? walk and get mugged? local train and get mugged? taxi and get injured in an accident? private taxi and pay through the nose? the traffic problem between pretoria and johannesburg is minor compared to the traffic problems within the two cities. if there were decent suburban rail networks then people would not have to commute from the outer suburbs to the various CBD's, we have the technology to do massive underground boring and construction what with all our mining engineers in this country, why did they waste the money on a train that is not going to be used by the market it was initially designed for, when they could have put in smaller subterranean links under the two cities. i only see the gautrain layout becomming effective once it is linked to such a system.
your thoughts?
Tweefo (November 19, 2008, 11:04:09 AM):
I think your Gautrain ticket will include your taxi ride. I read this somewhere, don't know if it is true. Hopefully it will be a better class taxi than a normal minibus, otherwise you are right, it will be a waste of time/money. What we really need is a "beam me up Scotty" machine. :) A road freight tax make sense to me - get the trucks off the road!
bluegray (November 20, 2008, 01:54:24 AM):
The Gautrain will also be supported by an upgraded bus system -


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