TV for Traffic Fines

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bluegray (May 20, 2010, 10:05:20 AM):
Got this in my email this morning. Any truth to this?
Police Take TV for Unknown Traffic Fines

I got a shocking email last week from Daniel of Jo'burg. He was sitting at home watching TV when there was a knock at the door. The police barged in and took his television (as well as his drivers licence and his vehicle licence disk) and clamped his car as well. He was handed a notice of a speeding fine which was over a year old. The most shocking thing is: Daniel had never received any notice of any fines in the mail, by email or by SMS.

How Could This Have Happened?

Under the new laws, fines need only be sent to the address on file. Receipt from you is not required for the notice to be legal. Since Daniel hadn't updated his eNATIS details, all his traffic fine notices went to an old address so he never received them. If you don't respond to a fine, it's perfectly legal for them to come into your home and seize any of your "movable property" including your TV. Even if you know nothing about the fines!

What was the fine that caused all this for Daniel?

A R400 speeding fine which ended up being over R2000 with all the added fees!

Don't Let This Happen to You

You may very well have outstanding fines that you don't know about. The only way to be sure is to check your driver's record and then deal with any fines you discover. I couldn't help Daniel - it had gone too far. I can help you ... with my TrafficFinesToolkit.

With your copy of my Traffic Fines Toolkit, you will learn...
1. how to uncover unknown traffic fines;
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BoogieMonster (May 20, 2010, 10:24:00 AM):
Hrm, AFAIK any discreprency on a traffic fine, including incorrect address, makes it null and void. YES it's your responsibility to update your address. BUT, a friend of mine did, multiple times, and eNatis still clung to the incorrect address. He kept all documentation to show he did attempt to update the address, and since all his fines have been voided (he actively monitors it).

But this email has the sign of a half-truth in it. "PANIC! WORRY! ACT NOW! but don't worry, I sell this helpful product that can help you..."
Faerie (May 20, 2010, 11:02:44 AM):
Just the feel of the mail is one of propoganda and hysterics. I would'nt worry about it. For some reason people get their knickers in a knot over this type of thing, my cubicle neighbour was telling me this morning about someone who knows someone who knows someone that was fined R500 for not having a red triangle in their car in case of a breakdown. She's rushing out to go equip her car with one this afternoon.

eNatis is a fark up in any case, the b/f had to go register my new car at our local authorities two weeks ago and they wouldnt accept our proof of adress because its on my name and not his. So I did the legal thing, went to the cop shop, completed an affidavid proclaiming him to be a permanent resident at given address, provided FICA documents. They still wouldnt accept it, end of story, he had to schlep to Roodepoort and have the thing registered there under his mother's address (he left home more than 10 years ago). All this because the other vehicles are registered there (we tried to change the address for these as well and eventually gave up in disgust)

Country's going to hell in a handbasket... wait, think we're already arrived, the basket is now smouldering at the seams and the bottoms already on fire.
GCG (May 20, 2010, 11:10:26 AM):
boogie, avatar is effing briliiant mate.

on the point of these hysterics regarding fines.
i did my research, and i actually went in read the road traffic act.

it says, that they can only arrest you, if they have a warrant for your arrest. they can only have a warrant for you arrest, if they have proof that they served you with a notice to appear in court, and you signed it. and they have the original or a copy of it with them. so that means, they cant arrest you at a roadblock for outstanding fines, unless they a copy of a signed notice on hand to show you have ignored the summons.
on the thing of rocking up at your house and taking your shit. bollocks.
for anyone to take anything from your house, they need a court order first. that goes for furniture places and your landlord too. nobody is allowed to touch your property without a court order, if they do, its theft, and you can open a docket at your local cop-shop against them.
allso, the police wearing the blue uniforms, are not allowed to have roadblocks, and demand money for outstanding fines. or give fines. they dont even have books to write fines in at all. they are just hoping for a bribe. only metro and traffic cops can give you fines, and arrest you for outstanding fines.

so tell 'em that. and tell 'em to get farked.
Mefiante (May 20, 2010, 12:02:04 PM):
That’s essentially correct, except to note some peculiarities about the rules governing the serving of legal notices. If the notice was served at an address that you no longer occupy but that is your address on record, the law then deems it to have been delivered to you even if it was signed for by someone at that address wholly unknown by you. That is, for example, if a notice is delivered to your old address from which you have moved but not submitted a change of address to the relevant authorities and the present occupants’ domestic servant signs for it, you will be in trouble even if you know nothing about it whatsoever. The law assumes that you are living up to your duty of keeping your details current.



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