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« on: September 23, 2011, 11:07:00 AM »

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Johannesburg - South Africa will experience its first ever conference on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) in November.

"Millions of people in SA have had their own personal experience with ETs and UFOs - but most have in the past been too nervous to raise the subject, afraid of ridicule," conference host Michael Tellinger said on Thursday.

The gathering would allow "those in the know" an opportunity to express themselves on issues like extra-terrestrial (ET) contact.

He said 13 internationally recognised and published leaders in the fields of UFOlogy, genetics, microbiology and biomimicry would speak at the event in Johannesburg.

Speakers would also address topics including alchemy, ancient wisdom, numeric science and the formation of a money-less society."The average person on the street is completely oblivious of the unimaginable progress in scientific research, so much so, that it would seem like magic to the unenlightened crowd", said Tellinger.

"While there are still many who smirk in disbelief at the concept of alien presence in the universe and even here on Earth, those in the know are rapidly moving well beyond trying to justify their knowledge to the uninitiated."


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I'm skeptical,13 internationally recognised and published leaders... recognised by whom? Ancient wisdom and numeric science?

Someone here planning to go have a look?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 11:07:26 AM »

In case any of you in JHB area are looking for some entertainment, there's a UFO/alchemy/pyramid/alien conference in November: http://fsi.org.za/ufos-meet-numerical-science-festival-nonsense/
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 11:09:31 AM »

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http://forum.skeptic.za.org/general-skepticism/ufo-conference-for-sa/msg21550/#new
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 11:19:23 AM »

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In case you haven’t heard of the organiser Michael Tellinger
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 11:23:45 AM »

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In case you haven’t heard of the organiser Michael Tellinger
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Summed up particularly well:

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Tellinger is a South African version of someone like Zecharia Sitchin, who himself is such a crackpot that even some other crackpots have disowned him.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 11:27:30 AM »

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Millions of people in SA have had their own personal experience with ETs and UFOs - but most have in the past been too nervous to raise the subject

So he claims there are millions of people with personal experience who have never raised the subject, but he knows about them?

How?

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 11:36:32 AM »

Omitting Erich von Däniken and Charles Berlitz is understandable but I’m amazed that they left out such luminaries as Richard Hoagland, Zecharia Sitchin, Graham Hancock and SA’s very own Wayne Herschel.

“Ancient wisdom” is one of those woo-woo notions that is buffed up for fresh display at regular intervals as if it incontestably affirmed those notions.  It doesn’t seem to occur to those who are partial to it to ask themselves that if indeed it is true knowledge of great value, how people managed to lose it in the first place.

It’s also frightening that Wits University is prepared to host such patent hooey.  What’s next, nativity plays for academia?

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 11:42:23 AM »

Ancient wisdom?
the ancients thought the earth was flat, that leaches can cure pretty much everything, tried to turn lead into gold, and so on and so forth.  ancient wisdom my ass.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 12:03:14 PM »

No, those examples, each being provably wrong, don’t qualify as “ancient wisdom” in the eyes of the woos.  “Ancient wisdom” is any vague, usually unfalsifiable fantastical conjecture the woos dream up to maintain the illusion that people in ancient times knew secret stuff about life, the universe and everything, which knowledge we no longer possess because we are way too materialistic (in both the pejorative and philosophical senses of that term).  It’s really just a rhetorical device whose sole purpose is to sustain the comforting delusion that humanity lost its way, and only a few select delusionals know the real truth about this.  The odd thing is that such “ancient wisdom” invariably yields a fat goose egg when subjected to sufficient critical scrutiny.

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »

 It doesn’t seem to occur to those who are partial to it to ask themselves that if indeed it is true knowledge of great value, how people managed to lose it in the first place.

Never heard of the dark ages?

There have been many civilisations that have been brought down in the past, with little continuity of knowledge beyond the most turbulent periods.

Not saying these woo-mongers have any credibility, just that there are precedents for lost knowledge in the past, conquering hordes/armies tend to burn records, destroy buildings, and interrupt traditions of passing on verbal knowledge and continuing apprenticeships.

A kind of ancient 'liberation before education' you might say.

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 12:43:54 PM »

Sure, but these people are on the whole arguing for prior knowledge of such momentous profundity and direct beneficial consequence to human existence that its being lost would be akin to humanity suddenly and collectively losing the ability to hunt or to farm.  The point is that alleged knowledge of the significance claimed by the woo nuts cannot help but be spread far and wide in very short order because it would confer a huge advantage on those who hold it.  Against this background, the woo crowd needs to add conspiracies of suppression by some elite in order to preserve the idea that the professed knowledge was indeed lost, and the likelihood that this is all true rapidly evaporates.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 12:51:35 PM »

people in ancient times knew secret stuff about life, the universe and everything
which really helped in not killing people for shits and giggles, living in peace with fellow human being, treating nature with respect, being kind to animals, the poor...
oh wait......
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 14:03:23 PM »

wtf is wrong with me? Why haven't I had a UFO experience? I've read all the sci-fi books ever and everything!

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 14:04:41 PM »

Two threads? definitely aliens at work!
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 15:13:08 PM »

You know too much.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2011, 15:17:35 PM »

my landlord recanted his UFO experience to me a few weeks ago.  i had gooseflesh.  i would LOVE to see one.  call me woo, but i think they are out there.  what the hell ever 'they' are.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2011, 17:05:48 PM »

Yeah and a "known person" of mine recently shared his ghost story with me too. He saw it totally standing there and everything! Still didn't buy it.

I've met some people who could tell you all kinds of elaborate bullshit given even the slightest prod.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2011, 15:31:26 PM »

wtf is wrong with me? Why haven't I had a UFO experience? I've read all the sci-fi books ever and everything!



You need to move into a trailer park somewhere in or near Nevada.
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 11:29:18 AM »

I always knew that I know to much, I think. bane of my existence.

Will the Karroo do? Nevada seems awfully far off and I probably won't be able to resist the lure of Vegas and miss out on any opportunities anyway.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2011, 12:11:54 PM »

Will the Karroo do? Nevada seems awfully far off and I probably won't be able to resist the lure of Vegas and miss out on any opportunities anyway.


Looks like it would do.

http://beta.mnet.co.za/carteblanche/Article.aspx?Id=1668

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It was late December 1998; the children were playing in the street in a quiet Graaff- Reinet suburb. Jacques Laubscher was indoors editing the video footage he'd shot over Christmas when one of the children, having seen something unusual in the sky, ran inside in a hurry and called Jacques to come quickly...


But be VERY CAREFUL not to pick up hitchhikers - could be the Spook van Uniondale, in which case you would be stuffed.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2011, 14:51:58 PM »

Why are these things mostly seen in far out places? Maybe the aliens are farmers themselves and avoid big towns and cities.
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 09:31:56 AM »

The topic of my Daily Maverick column this week: http://dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2011-09-28-who-did-et-really-call-woo-woo-fest-at-wits-might-have-the-answer
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 10:40:27 AM »

Good piece, Jacques — your ribbings of the UFOrics are reminiscent of the best of Martin Gardner’s in his Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science.



Why are these things mostly seen in far out places?
Because the LGMs* are trying to avoid humans by probing anally a few of the more reclusive specimens in the hope that they won’t spill the beans.  Since country-dwellers generally lead healthier lifestyles, they make better subjects for the intense study of human alimentary physiology.

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* LGM = Little Green Men.  Or Grey, depending on the delicacy, depth and duration of the anal probing.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 14:51:04 PM »

Thanks Mefiante. Glad some like it - one commenter sees it as proof that 'my tiny mind is very closed'!
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2011, 12:26:50 PM »

Thanks Mefiante. Glad some like it - one commenter sees it as proof that 'my tiny mind is very closed'!
O God, this is awful.  I've lost my mojo and completely forgotten what I was going to say.  I'll comment when I've remembered.  Damn mad cow.
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2011, 20:17:39 PM »

one commenter sees it as proof that 'my tiny mind is very closed'!

I don't know about the size side of things, but you do seem a bit closed off to the vast money-making opportunity represented by "millions of fuckwits people in SA". A fool and his money deserve to be soon parted. Open your head to the joys of  capitalist exploitation - ask Pastor Ray how lekker it can be. C'mon Mefiante, concoct us some nice exotic names we can use on bottled tap water or repackaged Smarties. Maybe we could dress up some Hillbrow tarts as aliens for a little post-conference profiteering entertainment.
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2011, 22:44:27 PM »

C'mon Mefiante, concoct us some nice exotic names we can use on bottled tap water or repackaged Smarties.
Okay, here goes…
  • P3 (Pleiadian Proton Preparation) – Puts you positively light years ahead of those who don’t take it!
  • Saucer-B-Gone – New lepton-enhanced formula will keep your house clear of those pesky, probing night-time intruders.
  • Nip-Tune – This all-in-one energy booster will keep you going like a gas giant!  Works especially well if you’re Japanese!
  • Curie Powder – The hottest yet!  Only the finest actinides are selected for our secret recipe.  Any curry or stew made with our special powder will give you and your dinner guests a radiant glow!
  • Ganny Mead – Lighter than lager!  Sweeter than ale!  A boson brew with space hops for the universal palate!
  • Tachy Tonic – For those times when you need to get there before you’ve even left.
  • Alpha Scentauri – First among perfumes.  If you wear it, no one will ever dare be alien again.  Guaranteed.
  • Warpex Factor Five – The #1 fuel additive for all makes of interstellar drive.  Shields and protects sensitive superconducting components.  Recommended by Zaphod Beeblebrox.
  • Betelgeusian Beetle Juice – For the prevention of Liverpool.  Now available in new Lennon flavour!
  • Heisenberg’s Drops – When you’re uncertain about what you want, even in principle, these tasty treats will help you regain your true measure and sharp focus.

Some shops that may wish to help sponsor the event…
  • Max Plank – The biggest timber merchant ever.  We cater for any quanta, no matter how wide the spectrum.
  • Van Allen’s Belts – Saddler.  Tannery.  Fine leather goods.  S&M trade enquiries welcome.
  • Gravitational Lenses – For all your photographic and optical needs.  We specialise in Schwarzschild radii, Riemannian manifolds and gauge fields, offering a continuum of space warp devices to the discerning foculist.

Not quite what you asked for, but feel free to extend at will.

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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2011, 07:45:33 AM »

In case any of you in JHB area are looking for some entertainment, there's a UFO/alchemy/pyramid/alien conference in November: http://fsi.org.za/ufos-meet-numerical-science-festival-nonsense/


Problem with that one is you would have to give them money, thereby justifying their lunacy, to attempt to unjustify it >.<
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2011, 07:19:32 AM »

Wow, just have a look at the utter lunacy that came about on Friday....

http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Aliens-use-Earth-as-battleground-20111125

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There's a battle for Earth by some interesting dark forces," said author, scientist and researcher Michael Tellinger, who organised the conference.

"All the governments in the world are puppets and instruments to implement the will of a small group of individuals. The royal political bloodline goes back thousand of years."

He said the royal political bloodline was a small group of families whose origins could be traced to the first of mankind and who were inevitably in contact with the aliens.

He said the South African government was one of the most important puppets of these extra-terrestrials.

This was because the country was rich in gold and diamonds.

"We are at the heart of this global control because of our mineral resources


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http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Alien-tech-used-to-thin-population-claim-20111125


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Johannesburg - Alien technology is being used to thin the earth's population, the great-granddaughter of former United States president Dwight Eisenhower claimed on Friday.

Laura Eisenhower was speaking on the sidelines of a UFO, science and consciousness conference in Johannesburg.

She said natural faults in the earth were being manipulated to produce catastrophes like tsunamis and earthquakes using Haarp technology or bio-weapons.



So hitting the 7 billion population mark is thinning out the earth's population then?
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2012, 11:00:45 AM »

An update on Tellinger (and this is just about as insane as his other stuff): http://mg.co.za/article/2012-03-16-court-sees-red-over-ufo-gurus-crusade/
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