Beware the Phony Pharmacists!

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Dr. Nancy Malik (July 15, 2008, 09:09:44 AM):
the medical establishment is intrinsically conservative, blinkered and unreceptive to new ways of thinking.I think that the modern medical establishment needs to be a lot more open-minded and progressive
I wonder what you’d do if you needed a procedure like neuroplasty or some other delicate medical interference that is the product of “the medical establishment” that, according to you, “is intrinsically conservative, blinkered and unreceptive to new ways of thinking.” A friend of ours almost died at a very young age of a middle ear infection because his parents insisted on going to a homoeopath. Only when things got very bad did they see a conventional doctor who successfully treated the condition with antibiotics. Our friend has noticeable hearing loss in the affected ear, which can be laid directly at the feet of the homoeopath who should have known better and recommended conventional treatment from the start instead of prescribing what is no more than distilled water.

'Luthon64

Homeopathy is not a pancaea for every ill. When surgery is the the only last option left, one has to and should resort to surgery. Homeopathy is not opposed to surgery. We say when something can be cured without undergoing surgery or something can be cured with gentler system of medicine, why to subject your body to torture and hardship. ANd when homeopathy has no answer to a patient's problem, we ourselves ask them to resort to allopathy.
Dr. Nancy Malik (July 15, 2008, 09:11:10 AM):
the medical establishment is intrinsically conservative, blinkered and unreceptive to new ways of thinking.I think that the modern medical establishment needs to be a lot more open-minded and progressive
I wonder what you’d do if you needed a procedure like neuroplasty or some other delicate medical interference that is the product of “the medical establishment” that, according to you, “is intrinsically conservative, blinkered and unreceptive to new ways of thinking.” A friend of ours almost died at a very young age of a middle ear infection because his parents insisted on going to a homoeopath. Only when things got very bad did they see a conventional doctor who successfully treated the condition with antibiotics. Our friend has noticeable hearing loss in the affected ear, which can be laid directly at the feet of the homoeopath who should have known better and recommended conventional treatment from the start instead of prescribing what is no more than distilled water.

'Luthon64

With the massive way antibiotics (kills healthy as well as bad bacteria) are being prescribed today they have suppressed and in no time going to destroy the immune system. It is going to be open to new diseases that are going to be incurable
Dr. Nancy Malik (July 15, 2008, 09:12:46 AM):
Two other things:
Hahnemann’s homoeopathy goes back to the early 1800s, making it near enough 200 years old. This age hardly qualifies it as a member of the category of “new ways of thinking.” If anything, it falls under the rubric of “ancient and ignorant ways of seeing sympathetic magic everywhere.”If someone asked you to prepare, say, a 36C dilution of Pulsatilla, would you be able to pick your own preparation out from a bunch of inert preparations that all look alike?
'Luthon64

What about allopathy? It is much older than homeopathy . around 600-700 years old. That means it is not a modern medicine.
Dr. Nancy Malik (July 15, 2008, 09:22:01 AM):
Two other things:
If someone asked you to prepare, say, a 36C dilution of Pulsatilla, would you be able to pick your own preparation out from a bunch of inert preparations that all look alike?
'Luthon64

Very simple to do. Even you can do that. Try doing it. Then you have no option other than giving homeopathy 10 out of 10.

I need to have two things

1. a mother tincture of it i.e Pulsitilla Q.
2. bloating paper

steps

1. I will immerse bloating paper in pulsitilla Q. It will get stained yellow.
2. The same bloating paper when imersed in various inert preparaations but the medicine i.e. pulsitilla 36C will get stain free.

This way it has to be done.
Mefiante (July 15, 2008, 13:57:43 PM):
Since you have never have an advantage of homeopathic treatment, how do you know it does not work?
How can you possibly know what treatment any other forum member has received?



Homeopathy is not a pancaea for every ill.
True enough: it’s a placebo for many.



ANd when homeopathy has no answer to a patient's problem, we ourselves ask them to resort to allopathy.
That’s very honourable but unfortunately not true. There are far too many cases of avoidable harm and even death resulting from a homoeopath or other CAM practitioner pretending to know better.



With the massive way antibiotics (kills healthy as well as bad bacteria) are being prescribed today they have suppressed and in no time going to destroy the immune system. It is going to be open to new diseases that are going to be incurable
I’m afraid this shows your knowledge of antibiotics to be quite deficient. They don’t impair the body’s immune system; they augment it. It is the evolutionary aspect of microorganisms that results in the deterioration of antibiotics’ efficacy over time. The microorganisms evolve resistance to antibiotics, as for example in the case of MDR and XDR TB. In order to address this problem, there has for several years now been an ongoing and concerted drive in the medical community to reduce the willy-nilly prescription of antibiotics and limit their use to where they are essential. In addition, doctors will always advise their patients to complete the course of antibiotics, something many patients fail to do and so they too must share in the blame.



What about allopathy? It is much older than homeopathy . around 600-700 years old. That means it is not a modern medicine.
This must be another joke, I think. Medical science has adapted from what it originally was – folk wisdom mixed with mysticism and superstition – into an evidence-based enterprise that has bestowed enormous benefits on humanity as a whole. In contrast, homoeopathy is still essentially the same unfounded nonsense it was 200 years ago.



Very simple to [identify a batch of 36C Pulsatilla from preparations that look alike]



This way it has to be done.
So you claim. By “bloating paper,” I assume you mean “blotting paper.” Unfortunately, the laws of chemistry will thwart you because a 36C dilution will not have a single particle of Pulsatilla left in any manageable quantity of preparation, and so cannot possibly affect the paper. If you think otherwise, you can win one million US dollars from the JREF just for demonstrating this ability. That money would surely help spread the benefits of homoeopathy, quite apart from proving all us sceptics wrong.

'Luthon64

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