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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2010, 18:46:33 PM »

Hair is dead.  Nothing you do to it, will make an ounce of difference to the health of it. (my capitalization. Wink)

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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2010, 18:48:21 PM »

Hair is dead.  Nothing you do to it, will make an ounce of difference to the health of it. (my capitalization. Wink)

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Thenk yew, thenk yew - thought I lost it there for a while!

But seriously, what do you think about my Argument from Wood in defence of the shampoo industry?

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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2010, 19:42:56 PM »

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it's good!  I find that almost any cream or oil will soften the skin, leaving it more 'youthful' looking.  Anything's better than dry and leathery.  Well-oiled works.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2010, 08:52:47 AM »

here i can speak from experience.
since im a chick, i have long hair.
since im an artist, i have worked with wood.

conditioner and crap simply smoothes down the surface of the hair follicle, which simply prevents it from sticking together.  it does buggerall to the physical condition of the hair.  the hair is dead.  all the crap in the world wont mend split ends, restore moisture, etc etc etc.    if you dont wash your hair, your scalps own oils will look after your hair just as well.  but since in this day and age, you want bouncy, shiny hair, we strip the natural oils away with shampoos and crap. while you can apply all kinds of mutis to your mane, the moment you apply shampoo, it gets removed.  so lots of money down the tubes.
i use silicone, coz i use a straightening iron on my hair.  it creates a barrier, so the heat doesnt roast my hair to a crisp.  it allso makes it all shiny.  when i wash my hair, it goes frizzy again.

to oil wood, simply means keeping the fibres of the wood pliable, so it doest come apart and basically start to decompose.  the fact that it brings out the colour and makes it shiny, is an added bonus. 

you can, and actually must, oil leather as well.

the shampoo and/or cosmetic industry, sells bollocks.  while the lotions and potions can make a temporary difference, while the product is on the affected area, causing some kind of surface appearance.  there is no long term results.

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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2010, 08:57:38 AM »

another part of these scams is the 'health/beauty' industry: cellulite creams come to mind WTF!!
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2010, 13:54:46 PM »

I act from the opinion that any face cream they are trying to sell me has some property that is going to start sapping my youthful skin, paranoia perhaps... Gradually you start to get wrinkles (I have none currently) and you attribute it to age which it very could be, BUT it could also be the shit they put in the cream, thus ensuring you move onto the next stage in the range perhaps mature age - wrinkle cream, etc. etc. Rather creating and aiding the ageing ever so slightly, something like creating an addict.....

Tissue oil works wonders for me.





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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2010, 15:11:11 PM »

It's interesting that a person doesn't normally wash his/her back as much or with as much vigour as the rest of the body...and neither is as much soap used. Yet it is a part of the body that doesn't seem to age as much or show wrinkles etc.

I've never suffered from acne so can't speak but from what I've read about it, it is hormonal more than anything else with bacteriological issues arising from the infection itself and blockages of follicles, but washing isn't at issue from what I've seen of it. Too much washing with astringent soaps and defoliants, strips the natural protective oils from the skin...so how much is too much? I for example wash my hair every day because it is an oily hair...but at 65 I have very few grey hairs (anywhere  Grin) and no bald patches although some skin is starting to show.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2010, 16:22:08 PM »

 Undecided Blanks out the anywhere statement!  Evil naughty!!

I had really long hair up until a month ago, which I would only wash once a week. Might sound horrid to some but I never develop any hair smell or any green oozing of anythingness.... Grin A few years back I saw an article in the 'You' admittedly dodgey perhaps, but it was about a woman who had never washed her hair: with a shampoo, she did 'wash' it but only with water, some of the most fantastic looking hair I've ever seen.

The industry will have you believe that you are only whole and acceptable once you have tried to alter and improve everything about you!

Oooh I found something: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/200806413291687  < pic too

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One brave woman proud of her long locks has admitted her dirty secret - she has not washed her hair for 11 years.Penny Weynberg has decided against spending a small fortune on shampoo and conditioner like most women.


Penny Weynberg
The 29-year-old mother-of-two believes hair has the natural ability to clean itself - so she doesn't bother.
It all started when the chemical engineering graduate was studying for her A-Levels.
"I was too busy revising to bother about my appearance," she said.
Mrs Weynberg, who didn't even bother to lather up for her graduation ceremony or her wedding day, has admitted to having greasy hair for the first month.
But she says it became less greasy and more glossy as time passed.
Explaining her beliefs to Sky News, she said: "I find shampoo just strips out all the goodness and then you put conditioner on to put the goodness back in.
"It's like doing one thing to contradict the other. It was much easier to get out of that cycle."
Mrs Weynberg brushes her hair daily to remove dirt and smells and rinses it with warm water every few months.
She has admitted: "It's very much against the way most people think."
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2010, 17:48:03 PM »

I'm probably going to be branded a woo for saying this, but the salon shampoo I get for less than 30% of the retail price through a hair dresser friend (tells you something about the markup) lasts more than 3 times as long, leaves my scalp less dry and my hair feeling "better" than supermarket shampoos. It could just be confirmation bias, but I honestly feel there's a significant difference. Maybe not a R300 difference (at full retail), but significant none the less.

Oh, and I only use it on the hair on my head, by the way  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2010, 18:08:19 PM »

i think that expensive stuff, to a degree, maybe uses better quality ingredients, that simply does the job better.  my boy friend buys expensive stuff, and i love it.
i think the cheapies have more fillers and random crap in, to take up volume, and make more foam, or smell nicer, to make up for the fact that the percentage of active stuff, is significantly less.

they might put the absolute minimum amount of active stuff in there to get the job done, and make up the rest with frack knows what.
whereas the expensive stuff uses more of the active stuff, thus it allso lasts longer, coz you need to use less.
my theory anyway.
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2010, 18:23:58 PM »

I recall something from a long time ago about washing powders for your laundry...

They (allegedly) PUT impurities in there to make it foam, because if it doesn't foam, the majority of housewives won't believe you that it works. Don't matter how genius your formula is.
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