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« on: November 01, 2012, 06:26:52 AM »

I seldom watch TV, but now and then I catch sight of an episode of Dr. Oz. I have long found him amusing, going on about the vital importance of eating this or that, or five signs that you are about to develop rectal cancer or that sort of thing. He neatly embodies the pseudoscience that much of modern medicine has turned into: a highly skilled surgeon with not a flicker of understanding of how science works.

I was less amused yesterday, when he had John Edward as his studio guest, and interviewed the fraudster in a completely uncritical manner. Some lady from some or other psychological association was also there, and also failed to take on Edward. So basically, the notion of talking to dear departed uncle George has now been publicly endorsed by both medicine and psychology.

In short, Dr. Oz is not just a tad ignorant of scientific method. He's a damn fraud.
 
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 08:12:20 AM »

Well, ask yourself how a surgeon ends up with his own TV show dispensing medical advice instead of doing surgery in a hospital when the need is much greater for surgeons than for a growing array of asshats on TV.

An overdeveloped sense of self-worth, amply bolstered by Dunning-Kruger fantasies.  That’s how.

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 09:14:38 AM »

Remember that Dr Oz is a spin off of Oprah, and one of the main reasons that they are so successful in getting controversial guests on their shows is that they are NEVER CRITICAL. Guests know in advance that they will always receive positive spin. It is a win-win situation, for everyone except an audience that would like to see the issues tackled head on. The target audience does not, it wants feel good warm fuzzies from start to finish.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 09:15:02 AM »

Dont forget we've got our very own home-grown TV doc as well.  "Dr" Michael Mol presented a show on the benefits of homeopathy not too long ago....
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 14:13:20 PM »

... how a surgeon ends up with his own TV show dispensing medical advice instead of doing surgery in a hospital when the need is much greater for surgeons than for a growing array of asshats on TV.

One of these will make you rich, the other will make you filthy stinkin' rich!

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... very own home-grown TV doc as well.  "Dr" Michael Mol...

The female of the species do seem to prefer the more "hunky" "doctors", don't they?

EDIT: Realised I should probably quote "doctors".
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 14:40:45 PM »


The female of the species do seem to prefer the more "hunky" "doctors", don't they?

EDIT: Realised I should probably quote "doctors".


My GP is a very charming man, he's also the only man in my life that would give me a kiss (on my brow) and symphatise profusely when I look like something the cat dragged in, he's also quite willing to book me off for a couple days for "stress". He's not hunky, but damn, he can be sexy when he sits there actually listening to your wailing and woes. I find a listening man extremely attractive!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 16:12:52 PM »

Dont forget we've got our very own home-grown TV doc as well.  "Dr" Michael Mol presented a show on the benefits of homeopathy not too long ago....

Yup, he's quite a loon. Some years ago I saw an article about how he had his house "cleansed" by some psychic or something, of items like African masks, because they served as "doorways" for demons that were terrorizing his daughter.

That's what passes for science on TV nowadays. I guess we can forget about a re-run of "Cosmos." And I'll never forgive the late, great Sagan for not having turned "Demon-haunted world" in to a TV series as well. :-)
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 09:04:32 AM »


That's what passes for science on TV nowadays. I guess we can forget about a re-run of "Cosmos." And I'll never forgive the late, great Sagan for not having turned "Demon-haunted world" in to a TV series as well. :-)


Cosmos is getting a remake by his wife and Neil deGrasse Tyson will host it. So very excited about that.

Steve Navella was on Dr. Oz show and he has spoken out against him alot.

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 09:39:49 AM »

Cosmos is getting a remake by his wife and Neil deGrasse Tyson will host it. So very excited about that.


Has anybody else here watched Through the wormhole?

It explores all kinds of modern science dilemma's. I find it a lot more refreshing than your average "here's how a star works ONCE AGAIN" show. They also explore some thoroughly weird theories, etc. I have no idea how scientifically valid some of the claims are, and there are some far-out ones, but the show does clearly state when things are getting "murky" and are uncertain/non-verified.

IMHO Morgan Freeman makes a great host overall. My only complaint is his corny introductory "when I was a kid" stories every episode.

Edit: And did I mention stunning HD visuals if you have the equipment?
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 10:45:41 AM »

Has anybody else here watched Through the wormhole?

Looks interesting.  Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 10:48:58 AM »

Has anybody else here watched Through the wormhole?


I just ordered it on Kalahari this morning... it looked interesting and I had a voucher to spend.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 13:30:32 PM »

I could spit nails at these telly quacks, all being patted on the back by Oprah "Secret-tard" Winfrey.

Oz actually used to spout some helpful medical advice until his fat, heavy wallet started affecting his spinal alignment, which cut off the blood supply to his conscience.

Meanwhile, REAL research doctors and scientists work themselves half to death in obscurity, mostly without much funding, making real progress. But snake oil and Human Specialness are what people want to hear about.

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Just found out ol' Ozzie had neuroscientist (and epic blogger) Steve Novella on his show a while back. I'm a Novella fan and am looking forward to watching this at home later. I can only surmise that Oz is as cheesy and manipulative as ever. Hopefully Steve manages to get some shots in.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/alternative-medicine-controversy-pt-1

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 14:00:35 PM »

Oz actually used to spout some helpful medical advice until his fat, heavy wallet started affecting his spinal alignment, which cut off the blood supply to his conscience.

A moral subluxation. He needs a chiropractor...
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2013, 18:05:01 PM »

So I watched that video (and the followups) from start to finish, I actually had no idea what "Dr. Oz" even looked like or what he said...

"Oz" makes sure he gets the last "definitive" word in on every issue: He dismisses what his opponent is saying outright, misrepresents it, calls his opponent "dismissive", shuts the argument down to prevent rebuttal, and then moves on to the next set of garbage.

What an asshat.
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2013, 07:58:57 AM »

What an asshat.

Yep!  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 08:23:56 AM »

http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4350.mp3

This just came up this morning on features a chipmunk version of Dr.Oz.
It's a good laugh. Wish I had some movie making skills.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 17:23:09 PM »

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2014/11/13/america-s-quack-dr-oz-gets-nailed-after-asking-twitter-for-questions
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 17:39:57 PM »

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I want this, Surely that MUST be good for you! And just imagine the potency!
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2014, 03:55:10 AM »


On a vaguely similar note:

19th-Century Documents Show How Little The Anti-Vaxxers Have Changed

http://io9.com/19th-century-documents-show-how-little-the-anti-vaxxers-1658381223
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