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the woowoo invasion continues unabated....

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2010, 10:57:11 AM »

That unicorn's wings are attached to its neck, which is quite far from its centre of gravity.   I would like to see how it flies.   And the angel is wearing a T-shirt.   How do angels get their shirts on and off?   Perhaps I should get that book - I would like to know more about the taxonomy of angels.   They don't seem to have nipples, so they are probably not mammals.   They also have six limbs, which is unusual for mammals (Batman excluded).   I suspect that they are insects.   It would also be interesting to learn more about their habitat and foraging habits.   And how do they reproduce?   Surely they don't do that filthy thing....
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 12:49:26 PM »

That unicorn's wings are attached to its neck;   I would like to see how it flies. And how do they reproduce?   Surely they don't do that filthy thing....
...and Hermes what about those wings from your helmet....they must flap like hell to lift you (if the helmet stays on!! Evil) and why from the ankles??? Grin
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 14:45:00 PM »

Ah, but with two sets of wings the positioning is much more flexible.   The cap does pull quite a bit when I take off in a hurry.  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 15:08:47 PM »

Unicorns with wings are lame. They had much better woo when I was a kid...
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2010, 08:16:46 AM »

A Nice quote in the introduction from "The Antichrist" by Nietsche: "The conditions under which any one understands me, and necessarily understands me--I know them only too well. Even to endure my seriousness, my passion, he must carry intellectual integrity to the verge of hardness. He must be accustomed to living on mountain tops--and to looking upon the wretched gabble of politics and nationalism as beneath him. He must have become indifferent; he must never ask of the truth whether it brings profit to him or a fatality to him... He must have an inclination, born of strength, for questions that no one has the courage for; the courage for the forbidden; predestination for the labyrinth. The experience of seven solitudes. New ears for new music. New eyes for what is most distant. A new conscience for truths that have hitherto remained unheard. And the will to economize in the grand manner--to hold together his strength, his enthusiasm...Reverence for self; love of self; absolute freedom of self....."
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2010, 13:13:10 PM »

My frustration is: what can we do about it? And I don't mean this in a negative sense - I really want to do something about all these woo-woo nuts (Christians included). I am already active in the field of evangelical atheism and I sometimes feel the way buka001 felt trying to call but not getting a response. There must be something practical we can do.

the problem with becoming organised, is then becoming a an organised non-religion.  im sure you can just imagine the woos going bossies for that.  if we preach non-belief, then we are preaching non-religion.  that just makes one, for all intents and purposes, a religion.  our faith, is in the lack of faith.
and the woos would latch onto that like vampires.  our strength, is in our ability to not be in their faces, and not being active.  once we become active, we hand them so much more ammo, coz we are dragging them away from their bibles.  if we start recruiting, it doesnt make us any better than the god-roaches knocking on your door.

i picked up a little bit of wisdom from a Codependants anon session i attended:  let go, and let god.
simply put, its not your problem, so leave it be.
there is no need for us to get pro-active.  if people want to sell their shit about angels and fairies and kak, let them.  its not worth if to get your blood pressure up about it.
if, however, it will affect you, say, in the workplace, or your kid's school, then, by all means, defend yourself and your beliefs, or lack thereof.
once we start getting agressive about our atheism, then the woos are gonna have reason to beat us to death.  for now, we are but a niggling pain in the ass, but no threat.
and, in general, the human mind is weak, and needs the woo-ness to keep them sane.  so let them have their god.  or unicorns.

but, again, stevo, what you have done, writing your book, is the right kind of steps.  you put the message out there, and if someone wants to read it, and get enlightened, they are welcome to do so.  you arent going to schools and telling the kids to buy it.  there is no need for anyone to go preaching science or god, coz, its their problem, not ours.
i enjoy the woos up to a point,  they give me plenty of giggles, and a good rant when i feel like it.
the tragedy that goes along with woo-woo mindsets, are unfortunately, very sad.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2010, 00:32:39 AM »

but, again, stevo, what you have done, writing your book, is the right kind of steps.  you put the message out there, and if someone wants to read it, and get enlightened, they are welcome to do so.  you arent going to schools and telling the kids to buy it.  there is no need for anyone to go preaching science or god, coz, its their problem, not ours.
i enjoy the woos up to a point,  they give me plenty of giggles, and a good rant when i feel like it.
the tragedy that goes along with woo-woo mindsets, are unfortunately, very sad.
Thanks GCG. You are correct in saying my anti-woowoo campaign is more passive than active. I don't stand on street corners shouting and handing out tracts. But I do attend debates and give talks for organizations that will have me, and promote my book. It's my little contribution - and as pathetic as it sometimes feels against the woowoo tide, I think, at least, that it's a start. But shit - I get soooo frustrated sometimes - you know? - and just wish we could have a kick-start like they did last week in the USA with that whole "day of prayer" charade. The Freedom From Religion Foundation is growing daily by the thousands and they had a full-page ad' in the NY Times (Dan sent me a copy if any of you are interested - send me a PM).

I'm frustrated (as we all are) but I'm still keeping my hopes up and trying to be positive about getting through at least to some.
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 12:39:57 PM »

When medical baloney is mixed in with religious bunkum, the result can be spectacularly wearisome.  Fortunately, there is the all-too-rare case where authorities pull the plug on such woo-woo merchants with a stern reprimand of, “Watch it, china!

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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2010, 21:49:16 PM »

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Seoul - A South Korean medical professor who invented a digital device he claimed could transform tap water into holy water is facing fraud charges, Seoul police said on Thursday.
Isn't this selective law enforcement?
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