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Which one is modern medicine: Allopathy or Homeopathy?

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Description: allopathy comes 500-700 years back or homeopathy which comes 200-250 years back
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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »

Troll.
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2010, 13:24:13 PM »

I am tired of answering again and again.
No, you’re not.  Just Google “Dr Nancy Malik” to see just how not tired you are.  Some might even call it an obsession.  (Do you get a homoeopathic remedy for that?)  Then again, what you call “answering” is typically little more than evasion and fabrication.



Still if something is not answered feel free to ask.I would be more than happy to answer you.
With a suitable meaning of “answer,” that’s probably true.  See the immediately preceding paragraph.

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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2010, 18:19:15 PM »

Still if something is not answered feel free to ask.I would be more than happy to answer you.

Good of you to offer, Nance. May I ask why you insist on peddling your homeocrap on a SKEPTICAL forum like this? Do you really think you are going to get anywhere, or convince anyone? Or do you have some kind of psychological problem, like some deep-seated drive to bash your skull against brick walls? There are plenty of sucker-infested new age forums to post on instead.
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2010, 15:55:04 PM »

came upon this completely randomly, just funny as all hell.  surprisingly, from a link on news24.

http://chard.livejournal.com/56996.html
Dr Charlene Werner at the "Healing the Eye and Wellness Seminar" explains homeopathy

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So God in his infinite wisdom sent another Einstein called Stephen Hawkings

i'm sorry, what?

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what is a cell? .... Is that mass? Not very much really, so what is that? You can break down the cells into tiny pieces of energy called electrons, protons, neutrons. So the whole body has an infinitesimal amount of mass, but what is the remainder? Energy. ... Now, if you go to study physics, energy cannot be created: .... But we don't know how to destroy it either -- that is not humanly possible. So what we do is take energy and we transform it from one state to another. ... guess what the definition of disease is. It's not mass. We have transformed our energy state into something different. That's what the definition of disease is. So we should be able to re-transform our energy into a previous better state. Right? And, what we do is we use light, we can use sound, we can use homeopathy.

huh?  what the hell?

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So, how homeopathy works is, whatever your disease process is, it's an energetic change, and if I can find the remedy that matches your state and give it to you when we so choose, what can we do with your energy system? Transform it to a previous better state. And that's how it works.

okaaayyyyy

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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2010, 16:21:35 PM »

Oh wow.... Just wow. I was already agape when I read:

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the whole body has an infinitesimal amount of mass, but what is the remainder? Energy
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Mass = Energy, Energy = Mass, they're the same thing. That's kinda her point right? Ugh.

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So God in his infinite wisdom sent another Einstein called Stephen Hawkings

God sends atheists to earth in his "infinite wisdom". Why, thanks!
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2010, 16:43:35 PM »

Did you watch the YouTube video of "Dr" Werner (~20 MB) saying these things?  To any right-thinking bipedal life form, it’s hilarious drivel bordering on satire but there’s a darker side too.  It’s instructive of the lengths the woo-woo brigade is prepared to go to when inventing fairytales that are meant to support their ridiculous notions, and unfortunately far too many people are taken in by such wild flights of noxious delirium because, after all, they come from an “expert.”

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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2010, 16:52:05 PM »

I wouldn't trust a doctor that's willing to BOMB her neighbor for letting the dog go on her lawn... Maybe it's just me.  WTF!!
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2010, 16:53:31 PM »

it seems, the woo-monger needs only use large words, and complicated theorems, to have the average woo get that glazed over look, and start reaching for his wallet.
quite sad actually.

i can totally understand and follow that molecules vibrate, since motion of the particles is, well, science (i'm no physycist, so im  waffling totally here).  so yes, i have read aplenty about modern warfare maybe moving towards sound waves weaponry, and being able to manipulate people's brainpatterns by means of introducing vibrations or what the hell ever.


but to allude, that by introducing (and that's what i'm following here) some hocus pocus form of medicine, with the aim of vibrating at some or such frequency, to cure whatever ails you...... i cant see that happening.
sure, maybe, if one has a tumor, and say, this tumor, by the nature of it's growth, might respond to an introduced source of soundwave, from a machine that concentrates the effects on the tumor, then sure.  why not.  i'm sure that's how they get rid of kidney stones these days?
but to randomly ingest some muti.... WTF!!
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2010, 17:49:10 PM »

We are stupid! All we have to do is coat some Kudu droppings with sugar / honey, give it a catchy name, get Mefiante to write something in science sounding words, get GCG to market it and we can make money. Lots of it. Ancient African Medicine or AAM. This is the cradle of human kind after all -  they survived back then so it must be good! Better than the old Chinese stuff.

Maybe we should get Tele (what happened to him?) to write it. He can say a lot without saying a lot.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2010, 18:49:41 PM »

… Tele (what happened to him?)…
Not to derail the thread, but he’s on a self-accorded mission to instruct all of us grey-matter-deficient mortals (i.e. the rest of humanity) on the finer points of the universe’s detailed internals and workings over at the MyBB forums.

As for your idea re AAM, while meant as a joke, doing so would effectively legitimise woo-woo tactics.  Remember that there is no idea so completely ridiculous that someone, somewhere won’t buy into it.

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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2010, 18:44:39 PM »

… Tele (what happened to him?)…
Not to derail the thread, but he’s on a self-accorded mission to instruct all of us grey-matter-deficient mortals (i.e. the rest of humanity) on the finer points of the universe’s detailed internals and workings over at the MyBB forums.

As for your idea re AAM, while meant as a joke, doing so would effectively legitimise woo-woo tactics.  Remember that there is no idea so completely ridiculous that someone, somewhere won’t buy into it.

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If homeopathy has been ridiculous then 500 million people all over the world would not buyed in to it.

http://bit.ly/cL1far

Homeopathy is growing all over the world and is now only second to conventional medicine. The status of homeopathy all around the world is growing you may like it or not , you may see it with your open eyes ot make them closed pretending it is not so. The choice is yours.

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« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2010, 19:13:47 PM »

If homeopathy has been ridiculous then 500 million people all over the world would not buyed [sic] in to [sic] it.
Since when does popularity equal factual accuracy?  For a self-proclaimed “physician,” you are remarkably innocent about the myriad ways one can fool oneself about alleged “cures,” especially those that claim to address non-threatening conditions.



Homeopathy is growing all over the world and is now only second to conventional medicine.
So what?  Cocaine is growing all over the world and the opiate is second only to opium.  Again: Since when does popularity equal factual accuracy?  Argumentum ad populum does nothing to support your case.  In fact, resorting to it shows just how weak your case is.



The status of homeopathy all around the world is growing you may like it or not , you may see it with your open eyes ot [sic] make them closed pretending it is not so. The choice is yours.
When the facts speak, choice doesn’t hold any sway over the question of what is true and what isn’t.

Try again.  This time with some actual evidence.

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« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2010, 07:06:25 AM »

If homeopathy has been ridiculous then 500 million people all over the world would not buyed [sic] in to [sic] it.
Since when does popularity equal factual accuracy?  For a self-proclaimed “physician,” you are remarkably innocent about the myriad ways one can fool oneself about alleged “cures,” especially those that claim to address non-threatening conditions.

Homeopathy is growing all over the world and is now only second to conventional medicine.
So what?  Cocaine is growing all over the world and the opiate is second only to opium.  Again: Since when does popularity equal factual accuracy?  Argumentum ad populum does nothing to support your case.  In fact, resorting to it shows just how weak your case is.



The status of homeopathy all around the world is growing you may like it or not , you may see it with your open eyes ot [sic] make them closed pretending it is not so. The choice is yours.
When the facts speak, choice doesn’t hold any sway over the question of what is true and what isn’t.

Try again.  This time with some actual evidence.

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Here's the evidence of how homeopathy works? http://bit.ly/aXpHuE

I don't think you have now any questions left in your mind
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« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2010, 07:34:02 AM »

laugh out loud
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2010, 08:00:56 AM »

No more questions in my mind Nancy, just rejection of your so-called 'evidence' which is no evidence at all.
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