Which one is more scientific: Allopathy or Homeopathy?

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Dr. Nancy Malik (July 23, 2008, 20:05:31 PM):
At the time of father of homeopathy, there were around 100 medicines. Now, 200 years afterwards the research in homeopathy has leads to 30 times more medicines. So homeopathy is evolving scientifically.
At the risk of pre-empting AAH’s no doubt well considered reply, I must ask you Dr. Nancy Malik please to provide a comprehensive list of recognised clinical conditions that were identified, classified and for which diagnostic procedures were specified by homoeopaths.

Please read that request again carefully.

'Luthon64

Threatened abortion, Abscess, Acidity, Rosacea, Addison Disease, Adenoids, Albuminuria, Alcholism, Alopecia, Amenorrhoea, Anemia, Ill effects of anger, Affections of anus, Appendicitis, Appetite Disorders, Arthritis, Asthma, Astigmatism, Backache, Lichen Planus, Barber's itch, Beri Beri, Affections of bones, Bowel obstruction, Billary Colic, Affections of bladder, Halitosis,Bright's disease,.....................the list is endless
ArgumentumAdHominem (July 23, 2008, 21:47:40 PM):
Hopefully this reply will get in early enough that you will have an opportunity to reply tonight Dr. Malik.

You are not reading the question. Which clinical conditions were discovered by a homoeopath?

Who discovered Acidity?Who discovered Abscesses?Who discovered Rosacea?Addison's Disease is named after the British physician Thomas Addison who described this condition in 1855. There is no record, that I could find, of him being a homoeopath.Adenoids are a part of the body, and thus not a clinical condition.Alcholism, Alopecia? Like Acidity, Rosacea and Absesses, these are conditions that were not "discovered" by physicians. These are not acceptable examples because you can't name the person who discovered these conditions.It is pointless continuing with this list.

How were you able to pass a qualifying exam if you are unable to read a question and write an appropriate response?

Answer the question again. Which clinical conditions were discovered by a homoeopath?
Dr. Nancy Malik (July 24, 2008, 09:11:31 AM):
Homeopathy believes that there are an infinite number of diseases and symptoms. Nature does not follow stereotyped formats of diseases. Every new combination of symptoms constitutes a different disease. So not diseases, but grouping symptoms is considered important.

A typical disease starts much earlier than it is detectable. The early symptoms (quantum changes in our bodies) of a disease are not detectable by modern machines. Homeopaths do not wait for a disease to progress to an observable level by machines. They observe the objective and subjective symptoms.
johanvz (July 24, 2008, 16:42:11 PM):
How were you able to pass a qualifying exam if you are unable to read a question and write an appropriate response?

Ugh, I think their text books state disease equals symptom and symptom equals condition. Also, if you don't know what is wrong(i.e observe a symptom) make up a diagnosis based on the undetected symptoms ???.

Homeopathy believes that there are an infinite number of diseases and symptoms. Nature does not follow stereotyped formats of diseases. Every new combination of symptoms constitutes a different disease. So not diseases, but grouping symptoms is considered important.

A typical disease starts much earlier than it is detectable. The early symptoms (quantum changes in our bodies) of a disease are not detectable by modern machines. Homeopaths do not wait for a disease to progress to an observable level by machines. They observe the objective and subjective symptoms.

So I guess the answer is that homeopaths have observed all the symptoms already. However, accurate description and determination of the cause is irrelevant.

However, Dr Malik you are still not answering the question. Which clinical conditions were discovered by a homoeopath? After all, you are selling cures for these conditions.

Mefiante (July 24, 2008, 18:37:36 PM):
A response from two medical experts:
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Acidity: There’s no such thing as having too much acidity; you can have a drop in pH resulting in acidity from specific illnesses such as lactic acidosis, diabetic ketoacidosis, etc. This is non-specific bullshit you can tell someone when you don’t know what’s wrong. No one’s ever described “acidity” as an illness.

Adenoids: These are an anatomical structure, not an illness. They’re inflamed in most upper respiratory tract infections as they’re part of the immune system. Sometimes they’re removed, like tonsils, because of persistent inflammation. Sushruta Samhita, a sixth century BC Sanskrit text on surgery, attributed to the “father of surgery”, Sushruta, contains various diseases of the eye, the ear, the nose and the head in the Salakya-tantra portion of the Uttara-tantra.

Alcoholism: It’s simply ridiculous to make a claim as to who noticed the first drunk person and said, “Hey! He’s got a problem.”

Alopecia and amenorrhea : These also belong in the above category. Hair has been falling out and women’s periods have been going missing ever since we climbed down from the trees. I suppose the first wig-maker could lay claim to identifying and treating alopecia. The commonest cause of amenorrhea is ... pregnancy! How long have we been doing that!?

Ill effects of anger, affections of anus , backache , affections of bones, bowel obstruction and affections of bladder: These are all so non-specific that you couldn’t say who treated them as an illness first. The Hippocratic school of medicine described well the ailments of the human rectum and the treatment thereof. Sushruta also discusses certain surgical conditions of ano-rectal region. Sushruta was well aware of urinary stones, their varieties and the anatomy of the urinary bladder. Sushruta also describes surgery of intestinal (bowel) obstructions.

Addison Disease: The condition is named after Dr Thomas Addison, the British physician who first described the condition in 1855. Chronic adrenal insufficiency.

Beri beri: Christiaan Eijkman, a Dutch physician and pathologist, first demonstrated that beriberi is caused by poor diet. The disease was often found in Asian countries, especially in the 19th century and before.

Bright’s disease and Albuminuria: Bright’s disease is a historical classification of kidney diseases that would be described in modern medicine as acute or chronic nephritis. First described in 1827 by noted English physician Richard Bright.

Halitosis: The commonest cause of halitosis is psychogenic, so the homoeopaths can keep this one.

Astigmatism: Alhazen completes his Book of Optics in the year 1021, which made important advances in ophthalmology and eye surgery, as it correctly explained the process of visual perception for the first time.

Appendicitis: Claudius Aymand performs the first recorded successful appendectomy in 1763.

Some relevant highlights in the history of medicine, preceding homoeopathy: The Kahun Gynaecological Papyrus treats women’s complaints and problems with conception. The Canon of Medicine is a 14-volume Arabic medical encyclopaedia written by the Persian Muslim scientist and physician Ibn Sina (Avicenna) and completed in the year 1025! The Edwin Smith and Hearst Papyri deal with assorted medical issues. Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari, a pioneer of paediatrics and the field of child development, writes the first encyclopaedia of medicine, ca. 838-870 AD. Abulcasis establishes surgery ca. 1000 AD as a profession in his Kitab al-Tasrif, which remains a standard textbook in Muslim and European universities until the 16th century. In 1596 Li Shizhen publishes Bencao Gangmù or Compendium of Materia Medica, containing 1,892 distinct herbs and other Materia Medica. There are some 11,096 side prescriptions to treat common illnesses.
It would seem then, Dr. Nancy Malik, that you also dispense truth only in homoeopathic dilutions.

'Luthon64

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