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Why some patients prefer Homeopathy over Allopathy?

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« on: July 22, 2008, 06:47:55 AM »

1. Wholistic Medicine
2. Gentler system of medicine with no side effects
3. Strengthens immune system
4. Tried and Tested Medicines
5. Long lasting to permanent cure
6. Often avoids Surgery
7. Cost effective
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 12:49:42 PM »

  • Holism (or perhaps “wholism”) being the watchword of quackery that deceives patients into believing that the laws of nature can somehow be suspended on their account.
  • Or, more accurately, no positive effect.  Side effects sometimes include death and a reluctance to join the rest of humanity in the real world, which is also a death of sorts.
  • Specifically, it strengthens immunity to contrary reason and evidence.
  • Tried and tested, but still in widespread use despite repeated failures to show any effect beyond placebo.
  • Long-lasting to permanent cure for anyone afflicted with an undesired attachment to reality.
  • Often avoids surgery, but usually to the greater detriment of the patient.
  • For any non-zero cost, zero effect means zero cost-effectiveness.  Where both the cost and the effect are zero, cost-effectiveness is not defined because division by zero is not permitted (except maybe in homoeopathic circles when dealing with an infinitesimally small zero).

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 21:25:48 PM »

1. Homeopathy is a wholistic medicine because the concept of disease in homoeopathy is that disease is a total affection of mind and body, the disturbance of the whole organism. Allopathy focuuses on just physical body. It thinks mind, emotions have no or little effect on physical body. They kept on focussing on organs not the complete body.

2. Homeopathy is a gentle medicine with micro doses. High mateial doses in allopathy results in large no. of side effects, many resulting in thousands of deaths worldwide.

A study reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that conventional drugs kill about 106,000 Americans a year, and this figure is limited to patients that die in the hospital, so the actual figure is unquestionably much higher. That makes prescription drugs the fourth leading cause of death in the United States (after heart attack, cancer and stroke).
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 21:26:48 PM »

3. With the massive way antibiotics (kills healthy as well as bad bacteria) are being prescribed today they have suppressed and in no time going to destroy the immune system.

http://www.chiro.org/ChiroZine/ABSTRACTS/antibiotics.shtml

4. Homeopathic medicines have been tried and tested on healthy human beings. They are known, trusted, and reliable. Allopathic medicnes are tested mainly on animals before their use for human beings
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 21:28:32 PM »

5. Homeopathy provides lasting cure. It enhances health and aims at well being rather than diminishing illness and absence of disease. Allopathy philosphy is that absence of disease is health.

6.There are number of diseases which are labeled as 'surgical', where homoeopathy works curatively and can avoid surgery except where tissue changes have occurred, or where there are congenital abnormalities.

7. Cheaper than allopathy
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2008, 20:37:54 PM »

4. Homeopathic medicines have been tried and tested on healthy human beings.
Talk about a sure thing - "tried and tested on healthy human beings". Treat someone without a backache, and after completion of the treatment.......no backache! Powerful stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2008, 08:10:50 AM »

Tried & Tested means: Homeopathic medicines (prepared from many natural substances such as herbs and minerals) used in the times (200 yrs back) of Dr. Samuel Hahnemann (father of homeopathy) are used even today because of their efficacy
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2008, 10:07:44 AM »

Tried & Tested means: Homeopathic medicines … used in the times (200 yrs back) of Dr. Samuel Hahnemann … are used even today because of their efficacy
It seems you missed wandapec’s joke, but what you say is in any case not true.  The reason these nostrums are still in use today is that they remain just as ineffective as they ever were and the level of people’s gullibility hasn’t changed much in 200 years, so the homoeopaths have kept on prescribing them.  In that sense, homoeopathy is a bit like a doddery old aunt of medicine who keeps spreading old wives’ tales that impressionable people take as being “tried and tested.”

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 17:41:13 PM »

Does this article suggest a slow public dawning of sanity regarding homoeopathy?  (“The public” in this context should be read as excluding homoeopaths and other woo-woo practitioners because these will continue bleating their tired litanies more or less undisturbed.  In fact, the article says as much about the UK’s British Homeopathic Association, which organisation maintains, in typical homoeopathic fashion, that a 40% drop in homoeopathic preparation sales is “not evidence” that GPs are steering away from homoeopathy.  It seems they would find a drop of 0.000,000,000,000,000,000,004% more alarming.)

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 19:37:44 PM »

A cousin of my wife, (a Microbiologist nogal) believe in homeopathy. Now being a mere matriculant I may not argue with her, a scientist! My views are uneducated and besides it "Works for her". She was diagnosed with cancer a while ago. Where did she go? Good old Western Medicine and, hurry, the last two sessions with the doctor show her to be OK. Being modest I did not say anything. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 03:20:30 AM »

[nofollow]http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-discussion/113-we-were-curing-cancer-century-ago.html[/nofollow]
[nofollow]http://www.homeopatia.edu.pl/index.asp?idm=2&idp=13&ide=41[/nofollow]
[nofollow]http://www.freewebs.com/homeopathy249/cancerremediespti.htm[/nofollow]
[nofollow]http://www.drramakrishnan.com/book.php[/nofollow]
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 09:55:22 AM »

A link to a woo-woo forum thread where the opening author rejects modern medicine in favour of ancient superstition, a paper by an Indian homoeopath published at a Polish homoeopathy website which paper actively promotes the withdrawing of cancer patients from their radiation and/or chemotherapy regimens, a list of homoeopathic preparations with very few indications sprinkled in here and there, and last, but certainly not least, a broken link, presumably to some homoeopathy book by a person called Dr Ramakrishnan.

So, what’s your point, Dr. Nancy Malik?

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 20:07:43 PM »

My point is that some patients prefer homeopathy over allopathy. And the numbers have kept increasing especially in the last decade. But why? Is it homeopathy has suddenly showed more efficacy or it is a faliure of allopathy that some people are turning away from it because of some reasons. One potential reason I am sure of is lage side effects, sometimes resulting in deaths.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 12:25:57 PM »

Maybe you should be a little more diligent about actually reading the things written by others who don’t share your view.

It’s just a suggestion, though.

Another suggestion is that you shouldn’t lose sight of the deaths attributable to homoeopathy’s ineffectiveness.

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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 08:40:11 AM »

A study reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) found that conventional drugs kill about 106,000 Americans a year, and this figure is limited to patients that die in the hospital, so the actual figure is unquestionably much higher. That makes prescription drugs the fourth leading cause of death in the United States (after heart attack, cancer and stroke).

Just one single drug, Vioxx, killed more Americans than the Vetnam War. That comes from the sworn testimony of Dr. David Graham, a senior scientist at the FDA.


The JAMA says that drugs kill over 100,000 patients a year and this is with prescribed and directed use. Anothe one and a half million are hospitalized for the side effects.

JAMA says that 50% of the operations are unnecassary

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19125683.900?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=mg19125683.900 

http://parated2k.joeuser.com/article/306340/Death_by_Doctor
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