Afghanistan: Kingdom of pedophiles?

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Julian (September 05, 2010, 10:42:18 AM):
This is appalling, but I think Brian's question raises a much larger issue. Much as I dislike the idea that values are relative to culture, I'm not sure we are at the place where we can point to objective moral values in situations like these. I think this is a large and very important challenge for the naturalistic worldview.
Peter Grant (September 05, 2010, 13:58:37 PM):
@Julian

This challenges the Islamic world-view and the Afghani world-view, but not the naturalistic one. You will be hard pressed to find a naturalist today who thinks it is OK to freck little boys.
Hermes (September 05, 2010, 15:51:02 PM):
I fail to see why we should not be in a position to objectively evaluate the morality of situations like this. Having sex with a nine year old child is nothing other than exploiting the child for sexual satisfaction. It is likely to cause physical pain, be traumatic to the victim and have lasting psychological effects on the child. That we are dealing with exploitation here is a self-evident fact.
Jumping from the twentieth floor will have the same devastating effect, irrespective of whether you do it in Johannesburg, Tel Aviv or Dubai. There is nothing relative about it and there is nothing relative about sexual exploitation.
Julian (September 05, 2010, 20:32:49 PM):
@Julian

This challenges the Islamic world-view and the Afghani world-view, but not the naturalistic one. You will be hard pressed to find a naturalist today who thinks it is OK to freck little boys.

I meant that the challenge for the naturalistic worldview is to find an theory of objective moral value.
Julian (September 05, 2010, 21:21:19 PM):
I fail to see why we should not be in a position to objectively evaluate the morality of situations like this. Having sex with a nine year old child is nothing other than exploiting the child for sexual satisfaction. It is likely to cause physical pain, be traumatic to the victim and have lasting psychological effects on the child. That we are dealing with exploitation here is a self-evident fact.
Jumping from the twentieth floor will have the same devastating effect, irrespective of whether you do it in Johannesburg, Tel Aviv or Dubai. There is nothing relative about it and there is nothing relative about sexual exploitation.

So what you are saying is that we can conclude, in an objective/scientific manner, that child abuse causes physical pain and emotional trauma. Since it is immoral to cause harm or suffering, the act of child abuse is immoral. Have I paraphrased you correctly?

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