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Benjammin (January 17, 2012, 09:16:35 AM):
Maybe so, but the religious anyway already have a much distorted view of atheists. People will make of things what they will, as instanced in this thread. Following Mr Gerber’s complaint, one would hope that the religious will be a little more circumspect about demonising atheism, which is where I see the complaint’s consciousness-raising value, as described in an earlier post.

And I’m all for freedom of expression. Nonetheless, there are good reasons why we have injunctions against hate-speech, of which this billboard was a mild case in its disparagement of the atheist demographic.

'Luthon64
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How can you be all for freedom of expression and want some expression to be censored? Firstly this is a very mild form of hate speech if at all, if calling someone a fool is hate speech, Christopher Hitchens was guilty, I would think most atheist are. Secondly atheists are not a poor persecuted minority that need protection from stupid arguments.

This complaint legitimises shutting down speech without making an argument, and that benefits the religious not the atheists. If instead you put up a bill board saying something like "only a fool accepts a belief based on no evidence and no reasons" that would be a much better response, but now the religious can force you to take that down because it upsets them, well done.

BoogieMonster (January 17, 2012, 09:36:34 AM):
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but now the religious can force you to take that down because it upsets them, well done.

This.

If I had to pick a world to live in, it would be one where people were free to say what they want, whether I like it or not.

The only real problematic thing for me is "inciting violence", but then, at the end of the day it's equivalent to conspiring to commit a crime, and may not need additional provisions in the first place.
Mefiante (January 17, 2012, 09:41:14 AM):
How can you be all for freedom of expression and want some expression to be censored?
It seems you didn’t read what I wrote with due care.

'Luthon64
Tweefo (January 17, 2012, 09:44:16 AM):
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If instead you put up a bill board saying something like "only a fool accepts a belief based on no evidence and no reasons" that would be a much better response
That would be a very nice bill board to put up, problem is, we can't. Lack of funds - we don't have a lot of people buying eternity. I must agree with the no vote here. Better to have free speech even if you don't agree with it.
GCG (January 17, 2012, 09:58:07 AM):
why should 'we' give a shit about billboards, or spreading any form of 'message'. is this not what a religion does? isnt the viewpoint of the atheist mind, that we dont give a shit? when you want to put up billboards, you are recruiting.... when you refer to 'we', does this imply that there is a structured orginization..... like a church?

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