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« on: February 27, 2010, 21:29:14 PM »

From the Bad Astronomer:

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Last night at 06:34 UTC, a huge earthquake struck on the coast of Chile, with a reported magnitude of a numbing 8.8 on the Richter scale — making it one of the largest earthquakes recorded on Earth since 1900.

A tsunami warning has been issued for the entire Pacific ocean. This is no joke; the tsunami gauges in the deep ocean have registered a wave spreading from the quake. I don’t know how big the amplitude is, but there have been confirmed reports of waves a meter high in Chile. That may not sound like much, but water weighs a ton per cubic meter/yard, so a wave that high has a lot of destructive power.

The tsunami should hit Hawaii around 11:05 local time, and it’s not clear at all how big it will be. In 1960, a larger earthquake happened off Chile and a tsunami hit Hilo, Hawaii causing quite a bit of damage. If you live anywhere near a Pacific coast, please check the local news and the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center. Also, a live stream of news from Hawaii is on HawaiiTsunami.com. I’ve been listening and the coverage is pretty good.

If you live in Hawaii, now might be a good time to check out that higher ground you hear so much about. At the very least, stay away from the beaches! People are already starting to evacuate the coasts, so if you choose to get out, the earlier you get moving, the better. Traffic is bound to get snarled. Please please please don’t panic. Stay calm, and keep focused.

It’s unclear if this will be a big wave or not. But if you’re in Hawaii you should consider moving to higher ground.

Here is a map by the NOAA of the modeled energy wave expected from the earthquake:


It’s unclear to me just how big a wave this means in terms of real height (it’s a model, not an actual measurement), but it should bring home that you should take this seriously.

I’ll note that the Richter scale doesn’t translate perfectly to energy released, but roughly speaking an 8.8 quake releases the energy equivalent of 20 billion tons of TNT, or 400 time the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated (Tsar Bomba, a 50 megaton test done by the USSR in 1961). If the measurement hold up, this will be the fifth or sixth strongest earthquake recorded since 1900. The strongest ever recorded, in 1977, was magnitude 9.5, also in Chile.


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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 10:09:26 AM »

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Santiago and its six million residents withstood the quake fairly well, according to authorities, although some major churches in the city centre and the international airport sustained serious damage.
This is from the News24 article. These huge natural disasters are always awful to deal with, but what annoys me is that some of our credulous brethren are bound to find some "spiritual significance" in the fact that the only serious damage was to some churches and the airport. Now we are going to hear that "they needed a lesson because they were 'in sin'" or some other similar BS.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 14:30:44 PM »

Im expecting the 'repent, the end is nigh!!!' cries at any moment.
the Rapture bunch must be having a field day.

They must be stockpiling canned beans and bibles in their bomshelters as we speak.

Now I have been doing some surface research of late, regarding plate tectonics, continental drift, etc.  Haiti is situated on the Caribbian plate. Now this poor bugger is being scarped from west to east by it's nothern cousin, the north american plate, pushed at by the south american plate and cocos plate.  so al this tension builds up.  and inevitabley, shit happens.


Now Chile sits pretty much on top of the join where the south american plate and the nazca plate joins, and not too far north of where the nazca, south america and antarctic plate meets.  each buggering pretty much in its own direction. 
so ja, same scenario.

Now, I am hardly a specialist in plate tectonics, but Im sure one can figure, that if pressure builds in one spot, and gets released (earthquake), then other spots of pressure gets even strained more, and kaboom, another earthquake.
this shit happens at such grand scales, that i can barely comprehend the massiveness.

its not god.  its nature,  and its not mother nature being pissed off at humans neither.  its super enormous pieces of earth, scraping against each other, grinding away over and under each other.  causing shit as they go.
and continental drift is creepingly slow.  like inches at best per year, not discernable to a layman.
so for years, buggeral will happen, then one day. shazam!  and the shize goes.

now, apeshit storm in eupose, that can be mother nature being peeved at us. but more likely byproducts of global warming.

if a country had to be punished in equal to their sins, then america would have sunk away in a molten pit of lava yonks ago.
and us south african white sods would have been chowed sif by rampant lions back in the colonialist days.

its not god.  its nature. pure and simple.  and im waiting for some relious kook to come at me with the end is nigh.  what an education it will be!
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 14:56:11 PM »

@gothcatgirl... you have a unique way with words, I was chuckling right through that very interesting post.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 17:41:09 PM »

thanx  Cheesy
i try.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 18:17:20 PM »

This is the warm up for 2012/12/21. We are all going to die! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 18:56:27 PM »

I'll go park on the Drakensburg. Apparently that's the place to be.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 20:53:54 PM »

Yup, I agree, beautifully put Gothcatgirl  Grin  Grin  Grin

A Christian on Facebook sent me an invitation to look after the pets (cats/dogs) after the Rapture. He sent it to me because he recons, as an atheist, I won't be going so I may as well make myself useful and look after domestic animals because they ain't going on the Rapture either. I sent him this reply: "Sign me up. At least I'll have better company than before the Rapture." Hehe.

And oh yes, if the world is going to end we'd better take the advice of the credulous and store up some tinned food. Makes perfect sense that we need to do that in order to survive the friggen end of the entire world, don't you think?  WTF!!
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 23:35:30 PM »

OT: http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com/services.html
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2010, 10:36:25 AM »



Went to this site. I at first thought it was a kind of joke-site but then went to their "Statement" tab only to realize these guys are actually being seriousWTF!! Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2010, 10:39:42 AM »

and i bet you they have customers.  sigh   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 12:11:48 PM »



Went to this site. I at first thought it was a kind of joke-site but then went to their "Statement" tab only to realize these guys are actually being seriousWTF!! Grin

This site isn't a joke either!  I wish I'd thought of this first; the idea of siphoning money out of the pockets of the thick and credulous has enormous appeal.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 12:42:41 PM »

How do you choose someone to look after your pet after you've taken up into the arms of God?  Easy, according to the aforementioned site.  Here's the hilarious table:-


Post Rapture Pets
Evaluating Pet Sitters / Others
"Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the
clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord"

1st Thessalonians 4:17
Deciding who to leave your pets with can be very confusing.  Fortunately, I've
come up with a quick way to evaluate potential caretakers.

Each person needs to be evaluated on two dimensions.

   1. Rapture Index
   2. Reliability Index


Fortunately, both of these can be evaluated by knowing only one fact about the
person - their religion.  Simply consult the table below to find their Rapture
Index and Reliability and use the following formula.

Suitability Index = Reliability Index * (100 - Rapture Index)

You should try to get several people lined up with high Suitability Indexes, but
for different reasons.  For example, you could get an Atheist and a Baptist.
Religion
   Rapture
Index
   Reliabilit
y Index
   Comments
Atheist
   0
   90
   Not going to be Raptured.  Will
probably think the whole thing is an
alien abduction.  Ask to see PETA
membership card.
Buddhist
   0
   30
   Many Buddhists are Asian and could
consider dogs/cats to be 'game'
Hindu
   0
   90
   Unlikely to eat pet.  It could be their
reincarnated uncle.
Mormon
   20
   70
   'Extended Family' makes pet care
easy!
Catholic
   30
   70
   Guilt based reliability.  Won't be
Raptured unless Pope says it's okay.
Jewish
   0/50
   80
   First number is for Reform Jews. 
Second is for Orthodox.  Both have
practiced 'guilt based' reliability for
thousands of years longer than
Catholic.
Baptist
   60
   60
   Probably will get Raptured and
probably would take care of your pet.
First Baptist
   70
   50
   More likely to be Raptured.  May
accidentally drown pet at mass
baptism.
Southern Baptist
   80
   40
   Pretty likely to be Raptured.  Will
write strong letter to congressman if
not.  Could take frustration out on pet.
Pentecostal
   90/100
   30/0/100
   First number is standard
Pentecostal.  Second is for snake
handling version.
The third number is for if your pet is
a snake, and they are snake
handlers.
Satanist
   0
   0
   Not going to be Raptured under any
circumstances.  Will be very busy
with 'Tribulation' parties.  You
probably don't want your pet going to
one of those.
Sorry, table buggered up, but you get the gist.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 13:35:24 PM »

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This is the warm up for 2012/12/21. We are all going to die!

Hmm, It would make more sense if it was 2112/12/21, no? We have a hundred more years! Rejoice!
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 15:26:06 PM »

This site isn't a joke either!  I wish I'd thought of this first; the idea of siphoning money out of the pockets of the thick and credulous has enormous appeal.


Yes BoogieMonster, that's the site this idiot sent me to. I seriously thought he was joking and replied in "joke-mode". He has since replied in "no-I'm-serious-mode" and I'm gob-smacked. He even asked me if I thought the entire NT was a fraud and I said, in effect, "yes, duh ..." I sometimes wish we had no integrity like these Christians, then we, too, could siphon money off these poor ignorant and gullible/credulous people.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2010, 15:34:57 PM »

I'm not so sure you're talking to me steve. But hey, to continue the trend, they can always just call us caring animal-loving atheists:

http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 17:22:37 PM »

just kinda wondering.  if the big G made all things.  that would include Fluffy and Cuddles.  Surely He wouldnt submit them to a slow death of starvation and neglect, when their saved owners ascend into the clouds?
what kind of a sicko mind would put HIs own creations through such a horrible end?
I know the suffering for your faith thing, is quite big with G.  Recently enough, like, the holocaust....

But what the hell did the poodles of the world do to deserve being alone in a desolate, and im sure, scorched to shit world.  afraid, alone, hungry, cold....
I would burn in hell any day, knowing I could provide a safe, warm, secure home for my pets till the very end.  Or at least spare them the agony.  and not leave them behind to die of hunger, selfish bastards.
and be it God, or the decrepid little masochist child next door, you hurt my pets, I will kick your ass brother!
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 19:03:33 PM »

I think atheists would make much better Gods than God  Evil
Even the Christian's other deity, the Devil, would make a better God than God.  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 20:10:29 PM »

if the big G made all things.  that would include Fluffy and Cuddles.  Surely He wouldnt submit them to a slow death of starvation and neglect, when their saved owners ascend into the clouds?

He's done it before.   Remember all the fluffies and cuddles that did not fit onto Noah's ark?
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2010, 21:17:17 PM »

just kinda wondering.  if the big G made all things.  that would include HUMANS.  Surely He wouldnt submit them to a slow death of starvation and neglect......... what kind of a sicko mind would put HIs own creations through such a horrible end?

Fixed that for you and....

Quote from: Hermes
He's done it before.   Remember all the HUMANS that did not fit onto Noah's ark?

fixed that too....

God is a right bastard. This we know. Nevermind all the animals, if God created atheists, what about us then?
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2010, 00:07:39 AM »

God is a right bastard. This we know. Nevermind all the animals, if God created atheists, what about us then?

God put us atheists here to test the Christians (hehe).
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2010, 08:46:06 AM »

It's all just practice for this "Rapture" thing you keep hearing about. Someone should tell this god that casting stones, including tectonic plates, is reserved for those without sin...
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2010, 09:13:45 AM »

The good folks at Rapture Ready is delighted that the "birthing pains" have begun. The end is near!!!!
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2010, 09:37:11 AM »

actually, if all the religious okes get taken to their individual heavens when rapture hits.  then who would be left?
oh yes, the right thinking sceptic, atheist and non-believer.  so that leaves us to run the earth properly.
in that case:

bring it on bitches
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2010, 09:55:33 AM »

just kinda wondering.  if the big G made all things.  that would include HUMANS.  Surely He wouldnt submit them to a slow death of starvation and neglect......... what kind of a sicko mind would put HIs own creations through such a horrible end?

Fixed that for you and....

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He's done it before.   Remember all the HUMANS that did not fit onto Noah's ark?

fixed that too....

You missed the metaphor again.    Grin   No wonder your sunday school teacher gave up on you!
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2010, 11:06:00 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2010, 13:20:34 PM »

actually, if all the religious okes get taken to their individual heavens when rapture hits.  then who would be left?
oh yes, the right thinking sceptic, atheist and non-believer.  so that leaves us to run the earth properly.
in that case:

bring it on bitches

This is why I told that Christian who sent me the invite to the "Post-Rapture Pets" site that the company we will share after the Rapture will be a lot better than Pre-Rapture. All fuzzy dogs/cats/horses and yes ... intelligent, well educated people who were not doff enough to be deceived into Christianity.  Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2010, 15:07:05 PM »

and we will have access to all the shitloads of gold and jewels being held under the Pope's pozzy.
First round on me okes!
AND
then we can burn al religious propaganda, and have a bigass bonfire and roast marshmallows and listen to Metallica and Iron Maiden.
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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2010, 23:46:17 PM »

and we will have access to all the shitloads of gold and jewels being held under the Pope's pozzy.
First round on me okes! AND then we can burn al religious propaganda, and have a bigass bonfire and roast marshmallows and listen to Metallica and Iron Maiden.

Bummer though, according to fundamental doctrine the Pope won't be going on the Rapture because he's Catholic (weeell, he was the last time I checked) and of course, Catholics can't be real Christians coz look what they did during the crusades and shit they even pray to Mary who isn't God and ... and ... Wait. Actually on 144000 male virgins get to go according to Revelations. Bummer, we'd still be stuck with a lot of really pissed-off Christians. Maybe we should have that bonfire after all and put the failed Christians on it because they gave us false hope about them buggering off in the Rapture.

Gothcatgirl - I tried to write the above in your really cool style, but I obviously don't have it. Will you give it a try please?
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2010, 10:38:31 AM »

Actually, Catholics are heretics and idolaters by the standards of Protestants (and vice versa), which is the reason each side thinks the other will be going to the Great Pizza Oven Down Below.  The essential difference is that in Roman Catholicism, Church tradition together with the absolute authority of the Holy See on matters of hermeneutics and scriptural interpretation are the primary determinants of doctrine and ritual, whereas in Protestantism these are matters to be decided through individual contemplation.  This is why there are nearly 40,000 recognised flavours of Christianity.

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2010, 10:50:11 AM »

I'm glad you emphasised "recognised", because in my experience not even the members of any particular denomination can agree for long in a conversation on doctrine.
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2010, 14:56:42 PM »

and not only xtians with a gazillion flavours to choose from.
every religion i can think of, has a 'oh kak were toast' story.
so, when the shishkebab hits the universal fan, all the religious should be going to their individual fluffy places.
and hey-presto!!  only us sinfull bastards left.
and ofcourse buddhists and hindus, cause of the reincarnation schpiel.  which is cool, the world cannot survive without chicken korma and springrolls.

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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2010, 10:21:13 AM »

My one brother lives in Puerto Montt in the south of Chile.   The earthquake was not as severe there.   He reports:

Anders as in Haiti egter is die boustandaarde baie beter. Hoewel baie geboue beskadig is het hulle nie ineengestort en op die inwoners geval nie. Dis hoekom die dodetal heelwat laer is. Dit is min of meer dieselfde idee wat in motors ingebou word - die "crumple zones". Dit absorbeer die ergste skok deur te vervorm. Groot skade maar minder lewensverlies. Die meeste mense hier is weereens nie deur die aardbewing gedood nie maar deur die tsunami wat gevolg het. In sommige gevalle het dit binne minute na die aardbewing gekom. Mense was in die donker gedisoriënteer en het na geliefdes gesoek. Tsunami’s is seker die ergste goed om te beleef. Dis maar moeilik selfs om net oor hierdie goed te skryf en ons het die nie eens self ervaar nie. Ons herken ook heelwat van die plekke.   
 
Die Santiago Metro stelsel is in werking en meeste paaie is oop. Die hoofpad na Puerto Montt is oop maar met verleggings. Dis ñ dubbellaan snelweg maar aanvanklik was dit net een laan. Gevolglik is daar oor elke rivier twee brûe, ñ ou een en ñ nuwe. In baie gevalle het een van die brûe ineen geval of is in elk geval so beskadig dat dit nie meer bruikbaar is nie. Dit veroorsaak verkeersknope.
 
Die lughawe geboue is beskadig en alles moet nou per hand gedoen word. Dink maar aan bagasie sonder outomatiese vervoerbande en so aan. Die lughawe behoort teen Sondag te begin werk.
 
Kragonderbrekings is nog algemeen in die ergste gebiede maar selfs Concepcion behoort teen die einde van die week weer krag te hê. Die probleem om watervoorsiening te herstel is groter aangesien van die watertorings in die slag gebly het en dit neem langer om te herstel. Hulle kon ook nie water pomp sonder krag nie.
 
Die herstelwerk begin nou spoed optel; dis nogal indrukwekkend maar dit is altyd daardie eerste drie dae wat krities is. Nou wat maak jy? Jy hou drie dae se water en kos en ñ brander spoel jou huis weg met alles. Dis nie maklik om vir rampe van hierdie omvang voorsiening te maak nie.
 
Nou net oor ons eie ervarings. Ons is wakker geskud van die eerste groot aardbewing. Hier by ons het dit 5,5 geregistreer.  Die gebou het baar redelik rond geskommel, ek skat so 150mm in alle rigtings behalwe op en af. Gelukkig, want op en af is glo die ergste. Dit voel asof jy in ñ klein bootjie loop. Tel jou voet op en dit beweeg soveel dat as jy jou voet weer wil neersit is dit nie meer waar dit was nie - nou nie so erg dat ons nie kon beweeg in die huis nie maar genoeg!  Ons het dadelik on klere aangetrek ingeval ons die gebou moes ontruim. Ek het besef dat dit hoegenaamd nie groot genoeg was om die gebou te verwoes nie maar wat van die volgende een?
 
Wel, ons het ñ "go-bag" met dokumente en ons reënpakke, water en beskuitjies ens. gepak en gewag. Alles was doodstil en baie donker want die krag was af. Geen honde het geblaf nie, net ñ motor wat in die vêrte vir sy baas gehuil het. Gelukkig het ons gas gehad, toe maak ons maat tee. Ons is seker meer Engels as wat ons wil voorgee!
 
Ons kampeertoerusting soos flitse was ook baie handig. Toe niks verder gebeur nie is ons maar weer bed toe. Net ingesluimer toe kom die volgende een. Nie so groot as die eerste nie, maar nog groter as enigiets anders wat ek al gevoel het. Na dese het ons nie veel geslaap nie!
 
Nou is dit ons beurt om te begin doen. Ek het dadelik gaan bloed skenk. Lang toue maar nouja, wat anders! Klere, kos en veral melk in groot aanvraag. Sal maar elke week ietsie probeer bydra. Winter is op pad, so behuising is ñ groot storie met 500 000 huise verwoes en ñ miljoen beskadig.
 

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