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« on: September 17, 2010, 10:32:24 AM »

The Pope has condemned 'aggressive secularism' and compared atheism to the forces of Nazism

 Shocked  Huh?  Angry


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Like wow and stuff. How many buildings have atheists flown into again?

Stupid, stupid, stupid. What a stupid little man.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 10:39:38 AM »

i heard a story from a work colleage of mine, that the pope was an SS officer in the war.  how true is that?
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 10:42:02 AM »

Here's a piece from my book on this arseholes holier than thou shit:
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"Political leaders, kings and presidents were mostly guilty of these activities; they were often dishonest and lied to their followers."
"But were they not caught out by their lies?" one of the older girls asked.
"Sometimes they were, but more often they used force or false information to keep their lies hidden. During a terrible and vicious war in the mid 20th century, the leader of the German people, a man called Adolph Hitler, convinced his followers that the Jewish people were a curse on the earth and had to be eradicated. He created falsities to scare his people that an evil existed and that the state should take every step possible to protect their homeland. This gave him the power to invade other countries and eventually to kill over 6 million Jewish people. Adolph Hitler was a Catholic and often used this to justify his actions against the so-called Christ-killers. The same tactics were used some 60 years later by the American government to pass laws which limited individual freedoms in the name of the so-called war against people they thought were a threat to their nation. They thus created an illusion that the country was in danger of imminent attack. Using this they mobilised their armed forces and attacked countries which had nothing to do with the supposed threat. There was also another man called Artuković who in a country called Croatia was found guilty by the authorities of the mass murder of Serbs, Jews, gypsies and other minorities. He had studied at a Franciscan Monastry which was part of the Catholic Church much like the Jesuits here. This all happened during the Second World War. When he fled after the war, he was assisted by Franscican monks to flee. Many other war criminals were helped by the so-called Vatican Ratlines to escape justice and they fled to other countries. It was well established that the Vatican actively sheltered and assisted war criminals."
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 10:42:42 AM »


and they let this oke kiss babies?!
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 10:50:44 AM »

He was part of the Hitler Youth. Arguably, didn't have much of a choice, but yeah. Don't know what he did back then.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 10:55:20 AM »

OH.MY.GOD.

I feel like puking just looking at that.... URGGGGHHHH
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2010, 11:02:15 AM »

 
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2010, 11:05:58 AM »

Wow, now even the pope acts in accordance with Godwin's law.

According to which, we were bound to be called Nazi's at some point or another.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 11:09:59 AM »

I think my favourite part is:
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The Pope spoke of Britain's deep Christian roots and later, in an apparent attack on human rights laws, used a sermon to 70,000 Roman Catholics in Glasgow to condemn 'arbitrary freedoms'.
WTF!! Exactly how arbitrary is freedom of religion? And freedom of speech? And freedom of thinking?
Seriously! This kind of thing makes me want to fly an atheist plane into a building... (just to be destructive and get rid of pent-up aggression, not to cause any physical harm to any person or property, of course)
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2010, 22:19:21 PM »

Whatever he’s up to, mention of the pope (and I refuse to capitalise* the title of the most useless and biggest crook CEO position ever) always reminds me of a grave practical dilemma facing rationalists:  Which one is really worse: an interminable succession of I-know-something-very-special-that-no-one-else-does-because-I-can-read-and-interpret-scripture-for-myself protestants (not capitalised*), or a small self-appointed catholic (not capitalised*) elite that pontificates to its indentured followers about what is right and what is wrong?

I keep changing my mind about the answer.  I suppose such indecision means they’re equally disturbing on average. Undecided

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*Capitalisation would denote a respect, the apparent according of which would leave me seriously remiss in honestly indicating my truly felt disdain.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2010, 12:03:09 PM »

So criticising an institution for protecting paedophiles makes you .... like the Nazis. Interesting. I think the Pope needs help with Logic 101.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 12:20:45 PM »

OK so I read the article and the inaccuracy and hypocrisy of the Unholy Father's statements made me pretty furious. Luckily they had a quote from someone with a bit of sense that calmed me down.

"Philosopher AC Grayling, an outspoken atheist, said: 'The suggestion that Hitler and Stalin were atheist extremists is a terrible canard.
'Hitler was born a Catholic and sent his Wehrmacht into battle with Gott Mit Uns [God with us] stamped on their buckles. It is characteristic of people of religious persuasion to use phrases like atheist extremist.
'But we are speaking frankly, which is not quite the same as tying someone to a stake and burning them.'"
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2010, 12:30:49 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2010, 14:16:33 PM »

"He praised Christianity  -  including non-Catholic denominations  -  as the foundation of respect for truth, justice, mercy and charity. They stem, Benedict said, from 'a faith that remains a mighty force for good in your kingdom'.

Whattapottashit!

I see far more respect for the above amongst secularists than anywhere else. He might also feel free to substitute the word "Christianity" for any other other religion, and I still feel my comment would be valid.

Intelligent toddlers know and respect truth etc without it having to be linked to wooden crosses, torture and eternal damnation.

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2010, 18:44:37 PM »

Protest the Pope



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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2010, 11:14:42 AM »

Atheist Boris Johnson certainly looks bemused.  Well, more like stoned, really.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2010, 18:14:36 PM »

Churches, schuls and mosques are the preyground of the unwary!
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2010, 12:57:28 PM »

Richard Dawkins' Speech at Protest the Pope March


Johann Hari Speech - Protest the Pope Rally


Andrew Copson opens the rally for Protest the Pope
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2010, 14:42:08 PM »

Great stuff, Peter.   When will we ever see and hear it in Middelburg?
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2010, 22:23:37 PM »

Great stuff, Peter.   When will we ever see and hear it in Middelburg?

You really want the poep to visit Middelburg?
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2010, 23:06:15 PM »

Found this on PZ's blog, LOL:

Tim Minchin - Pope Song
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2010, 08:50:00 AM »

You really want the poep to visit Middelburg?
The "poep" ... heheh LOL. Sure beats His Popiness the Hole.
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2010, 09:28:04 AM »

the poep.  ah ha ha haaa.  brilliant. plus one for you mate.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2010, 09:40:44 AM »

oh dear lord peter, that is the funniest shit i've seen all month    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2010, 12:43:59 PM »

"Dear Lord Peter", I could get used to being addressed this way. Grin Tongue
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2010, 20:02:51 PM »

Ah-aah, you introduced capitals, me lord.
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2010, 20:31:26 PM »

Lower case works for me too, as long as you don't capitalise anything else. Actually, I think that will be my first commandment, "THOU SHALT CAPITALISE NOUGHT BEFORE THE LORD THY GOD"
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2010, 07:40:02 AM »

I still find the "Thou Shall" and "Thou Shalt Not"s of the woo extremely annoying. I prefer the "I'd really rather you didn't"s of the eight condiments of pastafarianism, such as: "I'd Really Rather You Didn't Act Like A Sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou Ass When Describing My Noodly Goodness."  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2010, 09:57:04 AM »

Lower case works for me too, as long as you don't capitalise anything else. Actually, I think that will be my first commandment, "THOU SHALT CAPITALISE NOUGHT BEFORE THE LORD THY GOD"

but why oh lord peter should we only capitalise Nought? please oh mighty one, may we capitalise other words too?
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2010, 18:26:56 PM »

I still find the "Thou Shall" and "Thou Shalt Not"s of the woo extremely annoying. I prefer the "I'd really rather you didn't"s of the eight condiments of pastafarianism, such as: "I'd Really Rather You Didn't Act Like A Sanctimonious Holier-Than-Thou Ass When Describing My Noodly Goodness."  Grin

You know, me too. I also find it annoying when anyone else tries to do it. Giving divine commandments in archaic speech is kind of fun though. I think it's a male ego thing because part of me is horrified at the idea, but another part of me wants to SMITE MINE ENEMIES. WRATH AND VENGEANCE might be diverting too. Worshippers? Now we're talking!

Guess my point is, it's pretty obvious where these character traits of God originated.
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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2010, 18:58:06 PM »

but why oh lord peter should we only capitalise Nought? please oh mighty one, may we capitalise other words too?

Sorry Steve its only cute when GCG does it.

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2010, 09:00:19 AM »

My son sometimes plays a computer game called "Black and White". You basically play the part of God and you have subjects doing all sorts of things at your bidding. Some of your subjects are given the task of simply worshipping you and they all bow down at a kind of altar thing. One day, by mistake, he dropped a huge rock on his worshipers and killed them all. It was hilarious. We started joking about "smiting" and "they didn't bow down far enough - slackers" and laughed so much the tears were rolling down our cheeks.

Ah - the god-wish. The movie Bruce Almighty had a good swipe at it - brilliant.

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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2010, 09:08:25 AM »

My son sometimes plays a computer game called "Black and White". You basically play the part of God and you have subjects doing all sorts of things at your bidding. Some of your subjects are given the task of simply worshipping you and they all bow down at a kind of altar thing. One day, by mistake, he dropped a huge rock on his worshipers and killed them all. It was hilarious. We started joking about "smiting" and "they didn't bow down far enough - slackers" and laughed so much the tears were rolling down our cheeks.

Ah - the god-wish. The movie Bruce Almighty had a good swipe at it - brilliant.



Fun game, let him show you the evil god, lovely stuff, very blasphemous, also love "klapping" my pet cow (for some reason I like the cow)
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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2010, 09:11:43 AM »

that game sounds like something i could enjoy too.
any idea where i can download a demo?
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2010, 09:16:06 AM »

Fun game, let him show you the evil god, lovely stuff, very blasphemous, also love "klapping" my pet cow (for some reason I like the cow)
Seen it. I knew he was playing the "evil" god when I could hear little bursts of laughter every now and again. It's really funny. You klap your cow Faerie??! Now there is a thing you don't want taken out of context. LOL Heheheheh.

GCG: it's an old game, and most game shops should have it for around 50 bux (if they even have it still).
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2010, 09:21:19 AM »

wots its name, maybe i can get it on some viral site
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2010, 09:23:28 AM »

You klap your cow Faerie??! Now there is a thing you don't want taken out of context. LOL Heheheheh.

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2010, 09:28:14 AM »

wots its name, maybe i can get it on some viral site
It's called "Black and White 2".
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2010, 09:30:54 AM »

cool. fanks.
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2010, 17:19:18 PM »

i heard a story from a work colleage of mine, that the pope was an SS officer in the war.  how true is that?


Not true.  He was far too young.  He was in the Hitler Youth. He talked crap in Glasgow.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2010, 18:01:11 PM »

Fun game
Yes, but does it run on Linux?
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2010, 19:37:26 PM »

My son sometimes plays a computer game called "Black and White". You basically play the part of God and you have subjects doing all sorts of things at your bidding.

To paraphrase an old joke:

"Shit!" said god, and a million arseholes strained in compliance.....
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2010, 09:11:49 AM »

My son sometimes plays a computer game called "Black and White". You basically play the part of God and you have subjects doing all sorts of things at your bidding.

To paraphrase an old joke:

"Shit!" said god, and a million arseholes strained in compliance.....
Brilliant!  Grin
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« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2011, 11:32:04 AM »

A funny little man in a funny pointy hat says funny silly things.
[Pope Benedict XVI] insisted [youngsters] were in danger of alienation and detachment from reality by excessive use of digital media.



He accepted, however, online social networks were now an “integral part of human life” and encouraged Christians “confidently and with an informed and creative responsibility” to use them to spread the Gospel.
(Emphasis added.)

You just have to love the deep irony of the pope’s inane blathering.  Who, exactly, is already alienated and detached from reality!?  Is he really trying to turn Roman Catholics into evangelicals with this “spread the Gospel” hooey!?  In the RCC, spreading the word has always been a function reserved for priests and missionaries, not the laity because the RCC holds, as official policy, that the laity is far too uninformed and stupid about the Gospel to be able to spread it meaningfully.

In reference to the title of this thread, the above raises the intriguing possibility that the pope does not, in fact, possess anything that could rightly be called a “mind.”  Perhaps the man has Alzheimer’s to compound his brain rot.

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« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2011, 13:28:45 PM »

when the pope has anything to say, we should start stockpiling cans of baked beans and bottled water.
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