Religion in Public schools

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Faerie (October 12, 2009, 11:37:20 AM):

The problem is that there is no subject in the curriculum that teaches kids critical thinking from an early age, and that's what needs to be introduced to help kids when they're confronted with creationist nonsense like the one in the link Mefiante pointed out. Also, children need to be encouraged to speak openly about their views, this is one thing I drummed into my kids when they were at school. If they disagreed with a teacher's point, they should say so and be able to back up their arguments.

Did the same with my kids, and its paying off now in their teenage years. My eldest is the bane of many a teachers day, he questions constantly and does not hesitate to do his own research in order to question a teacher's answer.

Arm your kids with knowledge, my boys were exposed to the religious nonsense as youngsters, I sent them to sunday school specifically to expose them to religion, and today they are armed with knowledge which was critically analysed and explained to them.

My eldest was excused (banned?) from all religious study classes and groups due to his constant challenges. (His school attempted to incorporate all religions by inviting speakers from different sects to come speak to the kids on a weekly basis). His disruptions encouraged his friends to come up with "clever" challenges themselves and the class eventually erupted into chaos as the religious "leaders" couldnt answer pertinent questions.

Best we can do is to arm our children with the knowledge they require to expose religious drivel for what it is.
Dissol (January 31, 2010, 12:00:05 PM):
(My first post as a newbie on this Forum).

This is an issue that I have battled with for a long time with my son's schools. Uphill struggle, but so very worth it. I regularly berate both head teachers for their appalling bias towards christianity (and specific brands of such) which is disgusting in a multi-ethnic school. I fought from the inside for some time (joining, and eventually being chairman of the parent committees and the boards of governors). My first action in both was to stop the custom of having a (very christian based) prayer to start every meeting. This, with muslims, jews, and myself as the token atheist in attendance. I fear, now I have left, that the custom will have reverted...

Both my sons have come home at different times quite upset after being quizzed by their teachers over which church they attend (I actually encourage both my sons to go with their friends to different churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, etc., but with open minds...the eldest decided to stop, when he found out that his 'friends' were getting paid for his attendance!).

But I think that it is an issue that all parents need to make a noise about, and make a stand, even as I found out, it can make you very unpopular. (I happen to be a wheelchair user, and one parent decided to point out - for my own benefit, clearly - that I am in a wheelchair because I have sinned against her god...hmm nice god she has there...my response was meant just as helpfully when I hoped that she never became disabled).
Rigil Kent (January 31, 2010, 13:26:46 PM):
Welcome Dissol! :)

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one parent decided to point out - for my own benefit, clearly - that I am in a wheelchair because I have sinned against her god

Shocking and heart breaking that so many children are still exposed to parents who operate with this brand of medieval reasoning. Once infected with a smidgen-of-'ligion the victim routinely utters this sort of crap. Theistic brain circuitry knows no limits.

I applaud your brave efforts.

Mintaka
Mefiante (January 31, 2010, 19:26:18 PM):
I applaud your brave efforts.
Unreservedly seconded, and welcome to a small club.

'Luthon64
Jane of the Jungle (February 01, 2010, 06:50:32 AM):
A warm welcome to you Dissol :)

I live in a “Boere” community and can not dare to mention anything. Have to protect my kid for 2 more years but admire you taking a stand against the masses!

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(I happen to be a wheelchair user, and one parent decided to point out - for my own benefit, clearly - that I am in a wheelchair because I have sinned against her god...hmm nice god she has there...my response was meant just as helpfully when I hoped that she never became disabled).
(wtf!!)

I wish some people would actually try to use their brain before outer such crap.
Wonder what their explanation for many Theists being disabled would be!

Ooooh Oh ….I forgot, that’s gawd’s ways to make people’s religion stronger! No, No don’t get high hopes, you’ll never walk again, he just want to show you who’s da boss ::) or, or somthing like that! Stupidity!!!

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