SA's Morality debate....

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Julian (April 13, 2010, 18:13:44 PM):
Errr....

Rhema's McCauley, former bouncer with a criminal record, twice divorced, married to a former prositute and our esteemed leader, a polygamist with 20 children (a percentage of which is illigitimate) will now lead this country in a morality debate? How much weirder can this world become than this?

Is he really married to a former prostitute? That's pretty colourful. Not that I'd imagine that (or the past criminal record) to be a problem in terms of Christian morality, surely the twice divorced bit is the only real problem?

But yeah, morality debate my ass! Maybe they can invite the pope to join in.
Brian (April 26, 2010, 12:07:06 PM):
Why is it only men in these religions who get be polygamous? And only men who get to be suicide bombers and get 500 virgins for their effort?
I suspect that the tradition developed from thousands of years back when men died early due to hunting expeditions and fighting and to ensure the survival of the species,tribe, family, clan,etc. they had many wives, many offspring etc...If you were to reverse the ratio, the poor woman would still only produce one offspring every 9 months. So let's assume a clan of 10 woman each with ten husbands: total population = 110. Every year assuming no mortalities, it would grow by a maximum of 10 babies: ten years forward the clan will total 210-230 (I think). The other way around 10 men each with ten wives the ultimate count after ten years will be 1010 (the issue of affordability, mortality etc is left out of the equation).
StevoMuso (April 26, 2010, 18:09:30 PM):
Why is it only men in these religions who get be polygamous? And only men who get to be suicide bombers and get 500 virgins for their effort?
I suspect that the tradition developed from thousands of years back when men died early due to hunting expeditions and fighting and to ensure the survival of the species,tribe, family, clan,etc. they had many wives, many offspring etc...If you were to reverse the ratio, the poor woman would still only produce one offspring every 9 months. So let's assume a clan of 10 woman each with ten husbands: total population = 110. Every year assuming no mortalities, it would grow by a maximum of 10 babies: ten years forward the clan will total 210-230 (I think). The other way around 10 men each with ten wives the ultimate count after ten years will be 1010 (the issue of affordability, mortality etc is left out of the equation).
My question was rhetoric - just reinforcing my point that some religions (like Christianity and Islam) tend to be completely male dominated. The earth has been replenished - time to use secular morality rather than religious idiocy (hehe).
Brian (April 27, 2010, 08:15:19 AM):
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My question was rhetoric - just reinforcing my point that some religions (like Christianity and Islam) tend to be completely male dominated. The earth has been replenished - time to use secular morality rather than religious idiocy (hehe).
Totally agree. An extract from "Moses was a Liar" (Raider Books NY 2009) "Rachel continued, "it goes to show that throughout history, the woman has at best been ignored; not appreciated for her mind and at worst she’s been exploited and even abused with impunity by men. There was a time when the Catholic Church of the Ancients which was the biggest Christian church in the world of the Ancients, argued that women did not have souls. They even debated whether they were human."
and further: "Men (of Islam) of course could wear what they wanted to. It follows that when women spoke out against this discrimination they were often very severely punished. You’ll notice that again it is the woman who is the source of evil, not the man whose thoughts could be impure. This created an enormous gap between people often leading to violence, bombings, murder and importantly to the subjugation of women. It is a symptom of the male’s arrogance that women are considered to be impure and the cause of man’s sins."
Peter Grant (April 27, 2010, 10:48:16 AM):
Rhema's McCauley, former bouncer

I don't like bouncers, the bastards steel my stash and they're never around when there's a real fight.

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