Time to take back South Africa...

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lennymaysay (March 19, 2010, 20:18:55 PM):
I'm sick to death of reading every single day of some new way in which the government and its cronies have cheated ordinary South Africans either through blatantly raiding the treasury or non-performance, or both. The level of disrespect and loathing for the citizens of this country is extremely disconcerting.

I'm aware that the vast majority of ordinary people are either oblivious to this grim state of affairs, apathetic or disinterested.

What can we do to highlight/expose/change things?

Failing all of the above, I think it's time for a revolution to take back the country and place it in the hands of (who can we trust?)
sanlie (March 21, 2010, 13:13:25 PM):
I support your point..... however, what do you suggest should happen and how!
StevoMuso (March 21, 2010, 17:51:20 PM):
I'm sick to death of reading every single day of some new way in which the government and its cronies have cheated ordinary South Africans either through blatantly raiding the treasury or non-performance, or both. The level of disrespect and loathing for the citizens of this country is extremely disconcerting.

Welcome to the forum Lennymaysay. I strongly disagree with your post. You have made a broad sweeping statement without evidence or verification. I think it is a bit much to say "every single day we read about ... government cheating ... disrespect and loathing for the citizens."

My view (for what it's worth) is that most of the people in our government are doing the best they can. Our government has some maturing to do, granted, but they are getting there even if you don't think so. Yes, there is corruption, but you will find that in any government. That's why we have a legal system (and I suppose you have something negative to say about that too).

And "revolution"? Are you serious? By whom? At least our government has been maturing over the last 16 years under very difficult circumstances, and you want a new one? And put us back 16 years again with an immature (and, if by revolution, we can assume militant) government. I think not.

On a personal level, may I add that, even though we are free to express ourselves freely in any way we wish, I personally don't feel it's appropriate to put evidence-lacking-unsupported government-trashing posts in this forum. But that's just me (sorry, I don't mean to speak for the rest of the members).
Lilli (March 23, 2010, 07:46:01 AM):
(sorry, I don't mean to speak for the rest of the members).
I fully agree - negativity will certainly not help us move forward.
I'm sick to death of reading every single day ...I'm aware that the vast majority of ordinary people are either oblivious to this grim state of affairs, apathetic or disinterested.... Failing all of the above, I think it's time for a revolution to take back the country and place it in the hands of (who can we trust?)
You complain about negative things that happen in our country (which nobody can deny) and imply that the citizens of our country do not know/care. I'd like to know what you base this assuption on.
I would also like to know why on earth you think you have the right to complain about 'our government' as though every single person in our government should be labelled the same - what do you base this assumption on? I work with government and private organisations every day, and there are lazy, stupid, criminal and incompetent employees in both types of businesses.
I do not think you can simply point out problems if you are unwilling to be part of the solution, even if your attitude is the only positive contribution you are able to make.
Faerie (March 23, 2010, 09:10:23 AM):
Good grief... revolution? We're in the middle of one, give it time, it'll sort itself out in due course.

Yes, we live in very negative times, but I do see plenty of little indications of positive things to come. We're in the process of uplifting 40 odd million illiterate rural people. Upliftment on this scale will take 2 - 3 generations, we're busy with the second one.


I'm aware that the vast majority of ordinary people are either oblivious to this grim state of affairs, apathetic or disinterested.


and this is different how from the apartheid years? You, I and our parents simply turned our heads away from the unfortunates that suffered?

We are in a process of fixing things, support your local media - they have more power than you can imagine. Get involved in schooling - therein lies the salvation of all of us.

None of us are happy about the crime and other social issues, and if you really want to change things, take ONE child off the streets and give him an education.

But people screaming about revolutions generally dont want to dirty their hands with the really crappy jobs, do they?

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