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« on: October 08, 2010, 09:49:34 AM »

received this from my boss.

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1. If you are over forty, and you have a washboard stomach, you are a queer. It means you haven't sucked back enough beer with the boys and have spent the rest of your free time doing sit-ups, aerobics, and doing the Oprah diet...Faggot.

2. If you have a cat, you are a homo. A cat is like a dog, but queer-- it grooms itself constantly but never scratches itself, has a delicate touch except when it uses its claws, and whines to be fed. And just think about how you call a dog... 'Killer, come here! I said get your arse over here, Killer!'  Now think about how you call a cat...'Bun-bun, come to daddy, snookums!' Jeeezus, you're pitched, you're so queer.

3. If you suck on lollipops, Ring-Pops, baby pacifiers, or any such nonsense, rest assured, you are a Gaylord. A straight man only sucks on BBQ ribs, crab claws, raw oysters, lobster backs, pickled pigs feet, or tits. Anything else and you are a Homo in training and undeniably a fag.

4. If you refuse to take a dump in a public bathroom or piss in a parking lot, you crave a deep homosexual relationship. A man's world is his toilet; he defecates and urinates where he pleases.

5. If you drink anything other than regular coffee, you're as camp as a row of tents. A straight man will never be heard ordering a 'Decaf Soy Latte'. If you've put a Decaf Soy Latte to your lips, you've had a man there too.

6. If you know more than six names of non-standard colours or four different types of dessert other than ice cream and custard, you might as well be handing out free arse passes. A real man doesn't have memory space in his brain to remember all of that crap. If you can pick out chartreuse or you know what a 'fressier' is & nbsp; you're gay. And if you can name ANY type of textile other than cotton or denim, you are poofter.

7. If you drive with both hands on the wheel, forget it, you're dying to tune a meat whistle. A man only puts both hands on the wheel to beep at a slow-arsed driver or to cut the prick off. The rest of the time he needs that hand to change the radio station, eat a hamburger, or hold his beer.

8. If you do not send this off to all the males on your email list because you are afraid of hurting their feelings then you are definitely on the verge on being an arse puncher.     

i found this to be deeply homophobic, and quite insulting actually.
and i said as much.  he playing it off as a joke.
one of my co-workers, who is lesbian, allso found it offensive.

are we over reacting?
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2010, 10:06:53 AM »

'Jokes' like that should definitely NOT be passed around in the office - there may be a time and place for such things, but the office is not the appropriate setting at all! It is offensive, very much so.
Tough situation though - your boss is making it out as 'just a joke' so not sure how you could/should possibly react.
I dunno - I was always under the impression that a 'joke' is supposed to be 'funny'  WTF!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2010, 10:07:24 AM »

I find it offensive.  You're not over-reacting. If something like this landed up in my in-box in this environment, I'd lodge a grievance against the sender. (And out of spite go find a whole host of other things to complain about to put the cherry on top - like abusing e-mail facilities by sending out unsolicited hate-mail
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2010, 10:59:11 AM »

I found it insulting and offensive and plain boorish. Does it say something about your boss or did he have a 'blond' moment (no insults to blonds intended)?
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 11:57:54 AM »

i replied to the mail saying 'wow, clive.   a little homophobic, dont you think'
to which i received a phonecall, with him being rather defensive, and i said that it's offensive.  and he said, and i quote 'if anyone in the office finds this mail offensive, they can freck off'
i must add, though, that we are all a helluva naughty bunch, and we are crude beyond reconing.
then i thought, if i had to send around a racist joke, i would propably be fired.
or if i sent around a nice blasphemous one, everyone would be offended.
i can understand how it can be funny (allthough i did not find it funny at all).  but the whole, if you do this and this, you are a gay/faggot...etc, just made me cringe. 
if it was a case of, if you do this and this, you are henpecked/turning into a girl/turning into your mother... etc, then i might have written it off as a crap joke.
the problem is now, too, that the black staff who received it, are hosing themselves.  now our boss is very much a leadership figure here, and now it seems he is okaying homophobia.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2010, 12:15:10 PM »

now our boss is very much a leadership figure here, and now it seems he is okaying homophobia.

And this is exactly the problem, "leadership" dont realise the power they hold and the capacity of harm they can cause.  It p*sses me off solid.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2010, 14:27:05 PM »

Mmm, agreed, this is not appropriate for the office, and I certainly won't pass it on to anyone but a very select few... but I thought it was funny.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2010, 14:36:18 PM »

It is actually taking the piss with "the man" rather than the homosexual it decries...

agreed it is funny, agreed I won't pass it on (but I pass almost nothing on) and agreed it is uncool in office environment, but seriously, I'd rather get this than the religious crap some sends me.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2010, 14:42:42 PM »

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I'd rather get this than the religious crap some sends me.
agreed

i luckily get little of those these days.  word has gotten around.

i think what got me up in arms, was the use of the term faggot.  it's as bad as using kaffir.  i cringe as badly at both.  and in this day and age, you simply dont speak like that.
having walked pride on saturday, and being openly in support of gay rights, i thought it a bit hypocrytical not to actually say someting.
i think he does feel like a bit of a douche, but as the general south african male personality goes, he would rather die than admit he was wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2010, 14:51:49 PM »

Oh, that reminds me...
At the SITP Wednesday someone said that at pride she saw a bunch of hot girls carrying a placard sayins Skeptic.za.org supports gay pride (from memory, so might be wrong). Was that you GCG?
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2010, 15:36:08 PM »

yep, that woz me
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2010, 20:24:55 PM »

Remembering that ideally nobody should have the right not to be offended, always helps me see the humour.

6. If you know more than six names of non-standard colours .....

Hey, hang on - thats unfair!  Shocked I'm a colour chemist for Pete's sake!

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 15:39:27 PM »

Obviously I don't know your boss, but I would suggest that he simply hit the forward button without too much thought for the potential fallout?

I don't find it particularly offensive....just a bit atypical American style slapstick humour....humor?
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 16:45:30 PM »

i found this to be deeply homophobic,

To say nothing about ailurophobic, which is worse.

< I admit it - I had to look the word up! >
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 22:38:08 PM »

i found this to be deeply homophobic,

To say nothing about ailurophobic, which is worse.

< I admit it - I had to look the word up! >

Yes, it could well extend to those who have an irrational fear of cats, as well as those who suffer from paruresis?
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