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« on: January 25, 2011, 10:08:18 AM »

South African men are gang raping lesbians in an "attempt to cure them" (sounds like a rather flimsy excuse but hey...)

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_corrective_rape_za

- Post mostly because GCG prob. cares about this cause and would like to sign. Others are ofc welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 10:10:09 AM »

thanx boogie

joke is, a lot of lesbian ladies have turned their backs on men-king because they have been raped or molested, and i bet you all the money i have, that raping them, will not change their minds.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 10:25:31 AM »

We are a mind numbingly stupid species. How did we design computers? Surely evidence for ID...



Anyway, can anyone convince me of the productiveness of signing these kind of emails / forms?

I get the avaaz email ever so often because I once signed such a petition... and I don't mind this specific kind of chain mail so much, (it is informative if nothign else) which means I can't be bothered to unsubscribe from them. But I hardly ever bother to "add my name" as it just seems so.. futile.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 17:58:08 PM »

I guess I can't because I'm not at the negotiation table when they present these.

What I do know is they DO attend big meetings, pitch up with the numbers, and DO (well, at least try to) put pressure on the relevant parties. They claim on various places on their site that they have been able to get results based on their petitions. You'd have to examine the evidence yourself, I haven't. I *ALSO* rarely sign or share their links.

I recall signing one a long time ago when the Dalai Lama (or whatever) wanted to come to SA. That one was definitely utterly ineffective.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 07:32:16 AM »

Thanks. If I thought it had any effect, I'll be signing it for sure. As it is, I'll likely only sign when absolutely bored out of my skull  Undecided

Sometimes my apathy is astounding to even myself.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 14:02:38 PM »

I guess I can't because I'm not at the negotiation table when they present these.

What I do know is they DO attend big meetings, pitch up with the numbers, and DO (well, at least try to) put pressure on the relevant parties. They claim on various places on their site that they have been able to get results based on their petitions. You'd have to examine the evidence yourself, I haven't. I *ALSO* rarely sign or share their links.

I recall signing one a long time ago when the Dalai Lama (or whatever) wanted to come to SA. That one was definitely utterly ineffective.

So I signed one of their recent ones about the Uganda homosexuality "death bill", and they are claiming success on it. Just got this in a feedback mail, aparently the bill has been dropped for now (and they claim they were the impetus):

Quote from: Avaaz
Frank Mugisha, a courageous leader of the gay community in Uganda sent us this message:

 "Brave Ugandan LGBT activists and millions of people around the world have stood together and faced down this horrendous anti-homosexuality bill.The support from the Avaaz global community has tipped the scales to prevent this Bill going forward. Global solidarity has made a huge difference"

The EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs' Office also wrote to Avaaz:

"Many thanks. As you know, thanks to a very large extent to the intensive lobbying and combined effort of you, other civil society representatives, EU and other governments, plus our delegation and embassies on the ground the Bill was not presented to the Parliament this morning."

Hrmph, a bit hard to cry victory when so many other variables were at play. I think it's a bit of a hit-and-miss affair too, any government can easily ignore this kind of thing at the end of the day. However perhaps pressure from them "helps". I'm willing to live with that.

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