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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 08:48:17 AM »

when i moved to jozi about 6 years ago, i had the inkling to visit a spychic.  he was a bit of a mind-freck, as he managed to get loads of stuff right about my dad, but in retrospect, he could just have been using cold-reading.  its too long ago to judge accurately now.
anyhows, he said pretty much the same, about souls making agreements beforehand, to influence each other's lives.  as lame is this sounds, this kind of thinking keeps me semi-sane.  when i want to shit my best g-string at the thought of the sickly amounts of time and money i spent of my retard of an ex husband, for instance, it makes me feel better, to think that there was some kind of purpose, if only it is to steer me toward enlightenment, and teach me a life lesson.
this may be woo-woo to the max, but its better than macing the fucker and beating his head in with my shiny new baton.

in all honesty, i cant know what the real deal is.  so im neither for or against.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 09:23:01 AM »

Ladies, ladies, I sense a slight deterioration of critical thinking skills taking place betweeks the two of you.  

Reincarnation.....uuhh, NO.  
Psychologist Robert Baker conducted an experiment to show the efficacy of PLR. The experiment demonstrated the subjects' expectations significantly affect the outcome of the PLR session. He selected 3 groups of people and told the first group that they were to experience a new therapy that would help them reveal their previous lives. 85% in the group claimed they “remembered” a previous life. The second group was told that they were to go through a therapy session that could or could not help them remember a past life; 60% said they could “recollect” a past life. The last group was told that the therapy was ridiculous and that normal people didn't generally have a past life experience. Only 10% said they had a “memory” from a past life.

Astrology....uuuhhh, NO.  
 http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4173

But then again what do I know?  Maybe the aliens implanted you gals with gullibility chips when they last ubducted you.  Sorry to be a meany.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2010, 09:26:06 AM »

Ladies, ladies, I sense a slight deterioration of critical thinking skills taking place betweeks the two of you.  

Nah, its just a nice thought, one of those things you can wrap a daydream around at the end of a really shitty day!!!
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 14:11:19 PM »

i choose to err on the side of seeing is believing.  as yet, i have neither proof for or against, and even the most brilliant minds cannot say definitely this way or the other, i will keep my options open.
if, when one vreks, you are done, dusted, and there is only darkness. ag freck, this would kinda suck.
if you can take your energy or soul or whathaveyou, and fly into space, yes please.
i dont know, and since i dont expect a white light when i croak, i think it only healthy to debate and let one's mind run with it.

and i mean, bloody hell,  you cant be skeptic about absolutely EVERYTHING.  that just makes you a bitter old bal.  a little bit of mystery of healthy methinks. 
ironically enough, i think now of people who disbelieve the moonlandings, being roasted by this very forum.  while there are enough evidence for and against. 
i think, where there are no definite evidence for what it is or isnt, one can only offer opinions, and ideas.  there isnt really a fact to argue. 
its like arguing, how long is a piece of string?  untill you have the string in your actual hand, with a proper ruler to measure it with, its all speculation.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2010, 16:49:50 PM »

ironically enough, i think now of people who disbelieve the moonlandings, being roasted by this very forum.  while there are enough evidence for and against. 

There is? I was under the impression that the evidence in support of the landing is overwhelming. Which tidbit of evidence against the moon landing do you consider the most damning?

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 17:54:56 PM »

and i mean, bloody hell,  you cant be skeptic about absolutely EVERYTHING. 

You are right.  One cannot be skeptical about everything.  But one should be skeptical about those subjects for which no empirical evidence exists.  The burden of proof lies on the shoulders of the claimant. 

ironically enough, i think now of people who disbelieve the moonlandings, being roasted by this very forum.  while there are enough evidence for and against. 

In the case of the moon landings, there is a rather significant mountain of evidence that it happened. Launches, films, photos, radio recordings, transcripts, witness accounts, scientific findings, equipment telescopically visible on the moon's surface etc.  It was witnessed by the world.  There is no credible evidence that it didn't (Not one admissions from the astronauts or any of the tens of thousands of technicians and scientists involved that it was the world's largest, most complex, most expensive and most secretive hoax.) 

The few claiming it to be a hoax are not therefore skeptics as they are not arguing from a position of evidential superiority, but rather from the position of the conspiracy theorist.  Those special needs children who are so intimidated by their lack of understanding of the world that they have to imagine a big, scary group of sneaky clever people who spend their time and superior intelect setting up elaborate April's fools jokes that they never get to giggle about, because its secret.

As far as past life regression goes, there is no evidence for it.  And make no mistake, those claiming it to be true must provide the evidence for it before it can even be considered as a subject worthy of discussion.  There is however evidence that it enriches the shrinks who sell it.

I agree with agnosticism.  In fact, I consider myself a religious agnostic as I do not know.  However, as the claimants have produced no evidence in support of god's existence, I must lean towards the atheist point of view if forced to take a side.

I am sorry for going Rambo on you GCG, but I just seriously love a good debate.  And as you and I often seem to be on the same side of the fence, I should make the most of the opportunity. 
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 18:33:02 PM »

(Not one admissions from the astronauts or any of the tens of thousands of technicians and scientists involved that it was the world's largest, most complex, most expensive and most secretive hoax.)  

That's because the hoax was perpetrated by aliens who used their funky mind control techniques to cover up the evidence of their meddling.
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