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« on: July 06, 2011, 16:14:09 PM »

I rent.  And I have the most remote cottage on the property.  The neighbour to my north, has a 6 foot wall, with an electric fence on top of it.  AND a fence next to the wall as well, that curves around the wall to his side.
He doesn't maintain the thing.  The weeds grow waist high inbetween the fence and the wall.  So my landlord sprays it with weed killer, and they droop and die, and make the fence arc all over the show.
The wires he used to put up the isolater thingies, are rusting, and that causes the fence to arc too.
His cannas grow over the wall, dies, droops over the fence.  Rinse and repeat.
I had my landlord phone him to make a plan.
I left him my businesscard, asking him to call me, which he did. I explained the problem.  Nothing got done.

Now, I sleep with a pillow over my head, since the sound of electricity snapping all night long, is annoying.  I only have free tv, and the electric discharge from all the different spots that arc, has made watching the tellie impossible.  Havent even bothered to put it on for three months.

now, how do i approach this douche, and if he still does nothing, what are my rights as a neighbour.

and how have you dealt with an asshole neighbour, or his kids?
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 07:24:16 AM »

Eish, neighbours from hell... Aside from nagging the landlord to sort out the problems, I dont have advice for you.  I think everybody has a horror story about neighbours, I've lived next to an alcoholic who took great pleasure in beating his wife and kid every weekend, that was probably the worst one.  Aside from calling the cops and getting to be on first name basis with them, it didnt help, I eventually moved.  I've had animal problems with neighbours too, and regularly took dogs to the SPCA, only to have them harassing the neighbourhood again a few days later.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 10:21:59 AM »

Not the best idea, but this is the pissed off version of me. Get a insulated set of wire cutters and snip them. He probably won't notice. To be even nastier, find out what would trip his breakers, probably just a piece of metal that is too heavy to be moved when it shorts.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 10:32:53 AM »

mandard, do elaborate.....  he has a generator, but maybe if his fence trips the box enough times, he will lift his ass.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 10:41:07 AM »

I doubt you could get the fence to trip his power, an elec-fence auto-trips about once a second, hence the regular spark noise. It has built-in stuff to prevent shorts, etc. from causing problems. BUT if it gets upset enough it may sound an alarm and/or stop functioning (it'll still try to energise the fence about once a sec and fail every time, some may start beeping loudly at this point).

Personally I'd have a go at grounding (to a steel pole or something) the noisy wire (at night you should easily be able to spot the spark), so the path of least resistance isn't through the gap of air. This would require proper high-tension insulating rubber gloves, and something that conducts. But it wouldn't look like an accident, so you may have to be inventive.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 10:56:23 AM »

sorry okes, i'm dof with electricity.
what is the aim of what i'm trying to achieve?
there are several spots where it shorts.  loudly.
it's a mission to reach to fence, as my beloved landlord has a mangy fence about 30cms from the electric fence.  i can juuust stick my hand through the welded fence.  i doubt the fence is connected to any form of alarm.  a tree branch has fallen on it, and has been sitting there for a few days allready, and the touching wires makes no difference to him.

would having two wires touch, either by pushing a pole over, or breaking an isolator, would that cause the fence to malfunction?  and stop making an everloving noise?
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 11:44:51 AM »

Throw a length of wire that has been stripped of its insulation over the electric fence’s wires.  You can weight each end of the stripped wire with a small rock.  (Your wire doesn’t need to be thick or strong because while the voltage is very high, the current is negligible.)  This works best if your wire is long enough to touch all of the electric fence’s wires and the ground as well.  Be careful not to have your wire in your hand when it hits the fence, or to touch it once it’s in place.  This action will short out the fence and an alarm may be triggered, so perhaps it’s best doing it when it’s dark.

Do it often enough and your neighbour should get the message and do something about the problem.

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 12:11:38 PM »

ah.  ok.  i think i will push the dilapidated welded fence against the electric fence.  recon it will have the desired effect.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 12:15:02 PM »

Throw a length of wire that has been stripped of its insulation over the electric fence’s wires.  You can weight each end of the stripped wire with a small rock.  (Your wire doesn’t need to be thick or strong because while the voltage is very high, the current is negligible.)  This works best if your wire is long enough to touch all of the electric fence’s wires and the ground as well.  Be careful not to have your wire in your hand when it hits the fence, or to touch it once it’s in place.  This action will short out the fence and an alarm may be triggered, so perhaps it’s best doing it when it’s dark.

Do it often enough and your neighbour should get the message and do something about the problem.

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Brilliant idea! Am going to stick by Mefiante's side when the world as we know it comes to an end.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 12:22:28 PM »

When I was a farmer (long time ago) I decided to install electric fencing to control the animals. Installed it on a rainy day so the soil and grass was wet. Testing it to see if it was working by touching it with the back of my hand - very fast. Nothing was happening for about 5 times so I took hold of the wire. 10,000 volts later I drove into town to buy myself a tester. DO NOT TOUCH IT!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 12:28:23 PM »

i've gotten zapped a few times, trying to pull weeds and grass from underneath it.  which would have been fine on it's own.  but my hand is stuck through another fence, so you involuntarily pull your hand back.  and plenty of epidermis is left behind.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 12:50:27 PM »

Brilliant idea! Am going to stick by Mefiante's side when the world as we know it comes to an end.
Is this on Computicket?
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 12:56:50 PM »

Brilliant idea! Am going to stick by Mefiante's side when the world as we know it comes to an end.

Is this on Computicket?

It's on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118301268243845
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 13:00:53 PM »

I have enjoyed all the "arms-escalation" suggestions but are they strategies with a likely positive outcome?

Is the boring re-attempting communications along these guidelines not likely to work? (Hint: requiring evidence like conflict resolution studies or some such)

I admit I would probably be too chicken-shit to sabotage my neighbours fence and if I somehow managed to do it, I would then feel guilty. Must be that early moral catholic nurturing that is inhibiting me   Angel
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 13:45:34 PM »

i have written him a nicely worded letter, and left it in his gate.  trying equal amounts of guilt-tripping and veiled threats.  now time will tell.
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