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« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2013, 05:38:40 AM »

The youth of today has it easy. When I turned 21, I was a conscript in the army. Kids who turned 21 in the base were grabbed and had their pubic hair shaved off (us Afrikaners are such cultured people). So I saw to it that I took my ten days of leave so that my 21st would fall in it. By that time both my parents were dead and my brother a dirt poor student, so we couldn't do anything more than have a bit of a party.

I didn't mind, really. I after all managed to dodge the pubic shaving, and I have never really been one for big birthday parties. I am now slowly getting on towards the kind of age where I no longer want to be reminded of my birthday, and year after year I wish people would forget. Alas, they never do.
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« Reply #76 on: March 25, 2013, 06:03:32 AM »

The youth of today has it easy.

The truth. 

I was married and had a child by the time I was 21 and my folks deemed it suitable to give me a sewing machine, which eventually came in handy as I flogged it at a pawn shop a couple years later to buy food with - I utterly detest sewing. My ex forgot my birthday, so that was ok.  Grin

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« Reply #77 on: March 25, 2013, 06:56:52 AM »

Kids who turned 21 in the base were grabbed and had their pubic hair shaved off
I would just shave myself proactively. Wink

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« Reply #78 on: March 25, 2013, 07:11:59 AM »

Kids who turned 21 in the base were grabbed and had their pubic hair shaved off
I would just shave myself proactively. Wink

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Then you would be considered weird. And in that culture, it was best not to come across as weird or different in any way whatever. Bullying frequently crossed the line into brutal assault. It was in the army that I become rather cynical about my fellow humans.
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« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2013, 07:22:15 AM »

S'pose you're right. I didn't do military training so I missed out on the opportunity to meet large groups of people with such totally diverse senses of humour. It's one of my minor regrets, believe it or not. Undecided

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« Reply #80 on: March 25, 2013, 13:54:53 PM »

When I turned 21, I was a conscript in the army.
My 21st was celebrated between the islands of Trinidad and Tobago, en route from Cape Town to Houston.  Part of my job on that voyage was to take care of the 17 elephants we had as deck cargo, destined for a Texas safari park.  I stank.  Ask anyone who has ever had a close working relationship with elephant crap, and he'll tell you all about it.  About 1500, the mate came and told me to go and have a shower--he would take over my 'duties' for the remainder of the day.  My shipmates gave me the best party I have ever attended (well, without girls, anyway).  I didn't even know that they knew I was turning 21 that day, but what they did must have been planned for a long time.  The 'old man' (captain) gave me a bottle of Royal Salute (21 year-old single malt).  From my parents I didn't even receive a birthday card.  Go figure.
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« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2013, 15:21:24 PM »

Sorry, but must ask: do elephants get sea sick?
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« Reply #82 on: March 25, 2013, 15:22:34 PM »

Sorry, but must ask: do elephants get sea sick?
They didn't complain of it...
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« Reply #83 on: March 27, 2013, 15:47:22 PM »

I haven't been around because of multiple family crises/tragedies this month. I've gone from non-smoking to smoking to non-smoking again in under 4 weeks. I've been to one funeral, and taken leave all over the place.

Normal service should be restored after easter sometime. (I fucking hope)

In a completely related vein: Dealing with death as an athiest is simultaneously more difficult and easier... I'm not sure how to put it, but it's been challenging for me, and is causing a bit of depression, yet at the same time unhindered by rosy-eyed-spectacles, I realise that the end of pain is not necessarily a loss.
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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2013, 16:00:44 PM »

Eating a hot cross bun (store bought), remarkably still tasty to nonbelievers.
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« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2013, 16:28:20 PM »

You should try the Halal ones, apparently they're devilishly delicious.
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« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2013, 08:21:52 AM »

@BM Sorry to hear about your loss. Dealing with death for an atheist is very different as you are unable to console yourself that it was god's will and the heaven thingey, sitting on god's right hand, in Jesus' arms etc etc (vomit). My grandson's death was the most traumatic thing I ever experienced and although I was a non-believer prior to this I screamed and shouted at god to prove to me that he actually existed but strangely got no response; I went for counselling and the psycholocoloco made it clear to me that religion was merely a coping mechanism and that i would have to deal with it....I agreed and never went back. My mother's death 18 months ago was easy to deal with and we had an atheist ceremony which was very personal and touching. no god came into any speech and her ashes were spread over the roses she loved to prune.
A bishop once told me :"Death is part of Life" and so it is.
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« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2013, 06:48:18 AM »

Yesteday we celebrated my eldest's 21st.  Got him a decorative axe to hack his way into his future and the usual collection of cards and well wishes that went onto the pile from various family members.

He systematically opened up the cards, read the messages and counted his cash proceeds until he got to my MIL's card, where he stopped, frowned and tossed the card with its contents to one side.

I noticed (not many did), and zipped the card from the lot when he was distracted.  She included one of these little inspirational xtian bookmarks with a wooden cross which reminded him that he is a christian... the lad was horribly offended and I chatted to him about it a tad later.

He complained bitterly that he is absolutely fed up with people shoving religion down his throat simply because they know that he has been bought up "godless". He mentioned that he often come across (mostly family members) who want to "guide" him because apparently I did not do too well a job of raising him.

He's a polite young man, so he usually just excuse himself and go find alternative company in these instances.  I told him that he is now a "fully fledged" adult and that he most certainly do not need to be polite to these people anymore.

I'm annoyed because I wasnt aware of this happening throughout their childhood, and that both my boys felt that they simply needed to deal with this shit on their own. 

My SO is on the warpath and I'm sure there is a royal screaming match awaiting us in the near future.

So - heads up for those of you with kids or planning them - keep the mites well in your sights whilst they are little becauase the xtian community is a devious bloody lot that will ambush your parental authority at every opportunity. I'm just grateful that I cut off more than half of them when my kids were very small and the only family really having access to them are the direct grandparents and my brothers (they dont bother, but their wives do...).
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« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2013, 14:20:13 PM »

He mentioned that he often come across (mostly family members) who want to "guide" him because apparently I did not do too well a job of raising him.


Apparently you did way too good a job, they never got to him.

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keep the mites well in your sights whilst they are little becauase the xtian community is a devious bloody lot that will ambush your parental authority at every opportunity.


This reminds me of a movie from way back. The name escapes me now.... Googles..... Corrina, Corrina. Where a housekeeper/nanny goes to work converting an Atheist's daughter after the death of her mother, much to her father's chagrin, and at the end you can see him to also starting to believe. Yeah, that's totally how it goes down *rolls eyes*.
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« Reply #89 on: May 12, 2013, 13:34:24 PM »

Yesterday I found myself in the "teekamer" of a NG Church for Ouma's 85th birthday bash, surrounded by lots of old people (why are there so many?).

S/O and I make a beeline for seats right at the back, closest to the escape route, and were surrounded by the up and coming early 20's age group.

Right up front, exactly placed so that all and sundry cannot miss it, is a huge woodcarving of two women kneeling holding up a plate of fruit and a bible, with the words: BOND VAN DIE DIENARESSE... how utterly, horribly morbid.  I fly into one of my (now familiar) rants about how I'm nobody's farking slave and that this is one of the reasons that I would not subject myself to bondage to evil religious institutions, I sermonise at length to the young crowd how evil it is to hold women in such contempt that one would refer to them as servants and then expect them to be grateful for the insult.

What I didnt quite realise was that the dominee also seated himself amongst the younger crowd and only when I eventually ran out of breath and cast my eyes around I noticed this formidable, black suited Omie sitting there with huge round eyes and an open mouth.  He did not utter a word, only silently nodded, got up and made his way to his more demure grey haired flock.  Can only guess what he was thinking to himself, my S/O thought it hilarious, he loves it when I go off on a tangent and embarass myself in the process.

The day was torture, from having to soen-groet unfamiliar purple haired tannies and ooms with no teeth, to be told that I should have another child "ter wille van nasiebou" - Damn people, I cant wait for menopause to run its bloody course, and now you want me to spawn another 20 year long headache for nasie and prosperity?

My S/O wasnt spared either, his long lost cousins - not seen for at least 15 odd years, were gobsmacked that he found a wife and assured him in all sincerity that they thought he would never get married because there is "iets fout met jou, jy's nie soos ander mense nie"

My MIL introduced me as the "new" wife and I was far too quick with the tongue yesterday, I turned to her and asked her who the old wife was because I missed that part? She stomped off in a huff, highly offended and I got poked by the Omie next to the Tannie I was being introduced to, winked at me and whilst leaning closer said - "ek en die ou lady is nou 5 jaar getroud en ek is nog steeds die "nuwe" man, klaarblyklik was die ou een beter as ek" Shame...

I'm not good with these type of get togethers. It tires me out and drains me emotionally.
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