Morality and the 10 Commandments

[johnno777]

Yes, so you claim.  You do a great deal of “telling” without providing any actual reason, evidence and/or logic to substantiate your declarations.  Accepting for the sake of argument that s/he exists does not require accepting that his/her nature is as you assert; that is, after all, what we are investigating.  Be that as it may, for a being that is supposedly “incapable of sinning” there’s a great deal of evidence that strongly suggests otherwise.  For example, elsewhere you imply that abortion is sinful when done by humans.  How, then, is your god not sinful when s/he aborts many millions of human foetuses each year

As I said before, God gives life and He takes life. He commits no murder when He takes it.

[johnno777]

Cheers! It was a mistake re-engaging with you folk.For Tweefo, thanks for showing me why you cannot believe in my God.For Luthon 64, you're right its pointless, and a waste of time asserting and re-asserting our positions to each other in a circular fashion.

I am not going to cast pearls among swine (as it were) anymore(I suppose you know that  Piltdown man was scientificly based on a tooth that turned out to be a modern pig's tooth[but hey the theory marches on]).

Now you can graciously accept the plaudits and praises of your fellow sceptic lurkers, telling you how brilliant you were. Enjoy it while you can.I am not going to waste hours of time answering some of your inane answers to my posts and fanciful postulations that you make.I'm told to redeem the time, which is very short. Enjoy your miserable existance contemplating your navels and barking at the moon (ooh I mixed metaphors). May the God you don't believe, in have mercy on your souls. One day, when you're old (If God spares you), or you've just learnt that you have an incurable disease, or you've lost a loved one to an accident or to violence, I know its not Ghost Busters you're going to be calling for help.
Cheers!

[Anacoluthon64]

For Luthon 64, you're right its pointless, and a waste of time asserting and re-asserting our positions to each other in a circular fashion.

How deliciously ironic.

I am not going to cast pearls among swine (as it were) anymore…

“Casting” implies an elevated position, which presupposition is exactly where the problem already begins.

… (I suppose you know that  Piltdown man was scientificly based on a tooth that turned out to be a modern pig's tooth[but hey the theory marches on]).

A fact discovered by evolutionary scientists, not those who would hold up a so-called “holy book” as the ultimate and inerrant authority on all matters.  The Piltdown Man revision is just one example showing how science, unlike religion, is self-correcting.

Now you can graciously accept the plaudits and praises of your fellow sceptic lurkers, telling you how brilliant you were. Enjoy it while you can.

That’s hardly what I’m here for.  Unlike the christian god, I don’t go all homicidally menopausal when my ego doesn’t receive frequent and abundant stroking.

I am not going to waste hours of time answering some of your inane answers to my posts and fanciful postulations that you make.

While I could rightfully level those same pejorative labels (plus a few others) at most of what you have posted, I’m still very much open to persuasive argumentation should this be forthcoming.  Trouble is, I’m not prepared to compromise my standards of proof on someone’s say-so, which is exactly what you would have me do.  I’ll say it again: citing scripture is proof of little more than that you can cite scripture.

Enjoy your miserable existance contemplating your navels and barking at the moon (ooh I mixed metaphors). May the God you don't believe, in have mercy on your souls. One day, when you're old (If God spares you), or you've just learnt that you have an incurable disease, or you've lost a loved one to an accident or to violence, I know its not Ghost Busters you're going to be calling for help.

Examine, please, the morality of the above.  With just this example alone, what possible reason have you given anyone to consider your pronouncements any more seriously than, say, those of David Koresh, or anybody else’s for that matter?

Cheers!

Ditto, and good luck.

'Luthon64

[scienceteacherinexile]

I always notice with these guys that they think that when an atheist is dying or some tragedy comes along, that we will suddenly convert because God is the only one who can help.  More arrogance as far as I'm concerned.  They can't even fathom that you can give a dying or hurting loved one comfort without resorting to fairy tales.
That makes as much sense as the the quip I read somewhere once:
"The worst thing about being an atheist is that you don't have anything to cry out during sex" 

[pawpaw1000]

You guys need to understand that Christians generally find it hard to understand how you guys cant believe because once you “See the light” everything seems so clear! I know this isn’t evidence but hey! I know where youre coming from because I’ve been there and have a friend who still is there, Im in the process of converting him! HEHEHEH. I’m going to give some questions for you to think about but I’m not going to be drawn into a large debate. If you want a debate, I’ll e-mail you my dads e-mail address, he’s a theological Professor. Wheres the missing links of all animals. Where is the thing between a dinosaur and a bird? The bible does actually talk about Dragons and seeing as they weren’t known as dinosaurs back then, they are dragons . Not many animals are mentioned and for dragons to be mentioned twice means something, especially since they HAVE TAILS LIKE CEDAR TREES. Do you know any Large animal with a tail as large as a cedar tree? Problems with carbon dating, Many Pro’s and Con’s, it’s debaeable but definitely not certain and so can be used to base anything on. Many of the “Facts” upon which evolution are based are actually theories, many of them disproven…

I really don’t want to debate, have just posted these things so you guys can know that your beliefs aren’t as concrete as you believe.

I really hope someone who is as sceptical as you and close enough to you can make you realise just how wrong you are…

[Anacoluthon64]

You guys need to understand that Christians generally find it hard to understand how you guys cant believe because once you “See the light” everything seems so clear! I know this isn’t evidence but hey! I know where youre coming from because I’ve been there and have a friend who still is there, Im in the process of converting him!

Allow me to correct you on an implicit assumption you seem unaware of, one that is completely erroneous: atheism is a conclusion, religious faith is a premise.  That means that not everyone posting here was an atheist from birth.

As for your questions, since you have declared an unwillingness to debate, I would recommend a quick glance at the TalkOrigins Archive to address them.

'Luthon64

[Anacoluthon64]

Welcome back, johnno777, even if only for a moment.  It must be hell, being surrounded by such inveterate woo-woo nuts as are regulars on this forum.

'Luthon64

[bluegray V]

V. Be kind unto others whether they are kind unto thou or not, for it maketh thou the better person in most situations, and occasionally it doth piss off an idiot, which is funny unto Your Lord the Sauced One.