Circumcision 'reduces HIV risk'

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cyghost (November 12, 2010, 11:03:17 AM):
Not enough reason to be pro-circumcision though.
kollectiv (November 24, 2010, 14:44:20 PM):
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Not enough reason to be pro-circumcision though.
Really?? And if you were on a trip to Mars, and you had a finite chance of your appendix rupturing - and a high probability of dying if it did - you wouldn't pre-emptively have it out?

Pretty much the same thing here: if you get circumcised, your chance of getting infected with HIV goes down significantly, for every encounter. Carry on going long enough, however, and your ship will come in....
cyghost (November 25, 2010, 09:23:48 AM):
Pretty much the same thing here:
really??

Your appendix fails (for whatever reason) - HIV you basically have to go look for to acquire it. (note - both these are simplified for arguments sake only) Analogy fails. However;


...If you don't have sex on the way to Mars, or only with a partner you can trust, I'd suggest keeping the appendix, (take along a doctor that can perform the necessary operation) make sure any blood for transfusion purposes are clean and keep the skin mate. Always keep the skin. I guess that is just me. What is the probability of an appendix failing btw?

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your chance of getting infected with HIV goes down significantly,
Significantly my ass.

Just to be sure though, you are advocating circumcision then?
kollectiv (November 29, 2010, 16:15:11 PM):
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Analogy fails
I don't think so...it doesn't matter HOW you get HIV; if your risk mounts the longer you go on having sex, it's analogous to waiting for your appendix to burst.
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Significantly my ass.

Just to be sure though, you are advocating circumcision then?

It's your ass then! You don't think the reduction is significant? Really? When the vaccine and the therapies have no better impact, yet are touted as being significant?

And yes: circumcision significantly reduces the chances per penetration event of catching HIV from an infected person, so if you were a non-condom-wearing promiscious uncircumcised male, that's exactly what I would advocate.

After A, B, C - and yes, D (do it yourself - masturbation - sex with the one you truly love...B-)
cyghost (November 30, 2010, 07:42:37 AM):
I don't think so...
You wouldn't. It is your analogy after all. I think it fails on a few important aspects. One being that I don't think the selective appendix surgery is necessary in your Mars analogy in the first place. Not unless you tell me the chances of having a burst appendix is higher than I currently think it is.
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it doesn't matter HOW you get HIV; if your risk mounts the longer you go on having sex, it's analogous to waiting for your appendix to burst.
Well once you tell me the probability of someone's appendix bursting and whether there are extenuating circumstances either way, we can't compare this. But if you are in a monogamous relationship and neither of you have HIV, your chances of actually acquiring HIV (through sex) is zero. Maimed dicks have zero impact. Go figure.
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It's your ass then!
Indeed it is. But how much safer will you actually feel knowing you have a 5% better chance of not getting HIV? Significantly safer? really?
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You don't think the reduction is significant? Really? When the vaccine and the therapies have no better impact, yet are touted as being significant?
Really. I don't think it is significant at all. 5% in this case is as good as zero. "You can have all the sex you want. You cannot wear a condom. But we'll cut off a piece of your cock and there is a 5% better chance of not getting HIV!!" ::) ::) ::)
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And yes: circumcision significantly reduces the chances per penetration event of catching HIV from an infected person, so if you were a non-condom-wearing promiscuous uncircumcised male, that's exactly what I would advocate.
If you are a non-condom-wearing promiscuous uncircumcised or circumcised male you are an idiot an deserves what you'll get. Snipped penii won't (significantly or not) matter. It is almost as bad as thinking a shower will wash it off afterwards!!

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